[Vision2020] fleecing of Moscow???

Area Man (Dan C) areaman at moscow.com
Wed Jan 11 14:05:04 PST 2006


Dog gone I'm annoyed.

Where's my money?

DC

-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of keely emerinemix
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:46 AM
To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; joekc at adelphia.net
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] fleecing of Moscow???


Wow.  Seems like we got us a whole lotta federal offenses, then.

So why don't we just acknowledge that some people use aliases, lament their 
perceived need to do so, and stick to discussing the issues at hand?  Is it 
really important whether or not J is Jackie?

Ripping somebody a new one in cyberspace was wrong even before murky federal 
law came into existence, so why not just get off the "accusatory insane 
lunatic" bit once and for all?

keely






From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
To: joekc at adelphia.net
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] fleecing of Moscow???
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:04:35 -0800 (PST)

Joe,

  I know for FACT that J Ford is  Jackie Woolf, a city official told me. All 
you have to do is check the  ISP number from J Ford and a known ISP from 
Jackie Woolf and see that  they are the same person. You can check both from 
the V2020 archives.

   But you are free to believe what you want, like someone borrowed her  
computer. I do agree however, that if J Ford had to put her real name  of 
Jackie Woolf on her emails she would sound more like herself and  less like 
an accusatory insane lunatic.

  Her assaults against  people on V2020, including members of Christ Church, 
and others, under  the false name J Ford, is now a federal offense.

   Take Care,

   DJA


joekc at adelphia.net wrote:  Just a personal belief, Donovan, but I know 
Jackie Woolf and I do not think that J Ford is her.

Joe

---- Donovan Arnold  wrote:
 >
 >   "It is just so easy for you to point fingers at people and yet you do 
NOTHING
 >   to improve conditions of ANYone, including yourself."--Jackie Woolf
 >
 >  Jackie, I am sorry you view my job working with the elderly and  
disabled as not helping anyone or myself. But that is your right to  feel 
that way.
 >
 > Perhaps I should instead just go  around bending people's antennas, 
filing false complaints against  people, enforcing my personal preferences 
on others, and using foul  language on the Internet while hiding my 
identity.
 >
 >   Take Care,
 >
 >   -DJA
 >
 >  PS. Oh yeah, since your email does not give your real name, and it is  
annoying and harassing others, you are now in violation of federal law,  
Jackie Woolf, even Doug Wilson does not violate federal law.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > J Ford
  wrote:  Prove it!
 >
 > It is just so easy for you to point fingers at people and yet you do 
NOTHING
 > to improve conditions of ANYone, including yourself.  I mean YOU, not 
your
 > family, not your neighbors, not your "friends" - YOU.
 >
 > Just because you can say something doesn't mean you should.  >  > I for one am getting sick of your "muck-raking and war mongering" when 
you
 > have absolutely no intention of polishing the shovel much less taking one 
up
 > to help clean up the dog crap YOU are continually throwing about.  >  > If you have specific, provable, tangible items - I do NOT mean just your  > "impressions" or "thoughts" or "I-believes" - to put out there, do so.  > Otherwise SHUT UP!  >  > J  :]  >  >  >  > >  > >No, but what she fails to point out is that money  > >collected by the school district can be used  > >for raises if they do not have to use it for new buildings  > >and building repairs. Through passing a bond they free up  > >money in the MSD reserve for salaries.  > >  > >And yes, people did lie to us about the conditions of the  > >school in an attempt to pass the levy.  > >  >  > >  > >  > >  > >keely emerinemix  wrote:  Phil,  > >  > >The bond failed.  > >  > >Dr. Donicht didn't lie.  > >  > >There is no fraud.  > >  > >Raises and other contract language are negotiated between the Board of  > >Trustees negotiators and the MEA's negotiators.  > >  > >I am not a negotiator.  > >  > >I am proud to work with the negotiators on other board issues.  > >  > >Bond money can't fund raises.  > >  > >Operating budget can't fund bonds.  > >  > >We have covered all of this before.  > >  > >I'm done.  > >  > >keely  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >From: "Shelly"  > >To: ,  > >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] fleecing of Moscow???  > >Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:05:40 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)  > >
 > >   Shawn,
 > >
 > >Please reread my statement. It says, in a questionable form, "did I hear  > >right? Our school administrators and teachers all got better than a 4%  > >raise?" I was asking a question. Did they? I never said the 4% elleged  > >raise  > >came out of the building fund.  > >  > >My next question for you, if your statement is factual, how did Candice  > >Donicht promise if her Bond would pass that not one dime would go to the  > >teachers in raises. And administration. But immediately after that Bond  > >passed everybody got raises. In my book that is a falsehood.  > >  > >Phil Roderick  > >  > >  > >-------Original Message-------  > >  > >From: Shawn Clabough  > >Date: 01/09/06 18:43:13  > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com  > >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] fleecing of Moscow???  > >  > >Is this aimed at the state administration, where it rightfully should 
be?
 > >Local administrators do not have the flexibility to move monies 
earmarked
 > >for salaries to building maintenance and vice versa.  Also, your 
statement
 > >“Our school administrators and teachers all got better than a 4% 
raise” is
 > >not completely accurate.
 > >Shawn
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com 
[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
 > >On Behalf Of Shelly
 > >Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 12:11 PM
 > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
 > >Subject: [Vision2020] fleecing of Moscow???
 > >
 > >Did I hear right? Our school administrators and teachers all got better  > >than  > >a 4% raise? Yet our schools continue to deteriorate? I also understand  > >there  > >is something like 15 million dollars in trust. Wait, did I use the right  > >word, trust???????? Is this BEFORE or AFTER the raises? Why does this 
keep
 > >happening with the same administration?
 > >
 > >Phil Roderick
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
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