[Vision2020] fleecing of Moscow??? [How wide is Donovan's abuse?]
Art Deco
deco at moscow.com
Wed Jan 11 12:08:07 PST 2006
Keely,
What concerns me is not Donovan's willingness to abuse everyone with whom he disagrees. Lots of V 2020 posters do similar things in various degrees, myself included. Such abuse in certain quantities is common in public discourse. What really concerns me with Donovan's amply demonstrated tendency to abuse harshly with little or no provocation is that he is entrusted with the care of the elderly.
If I was his supervisor and someone made me aware by giving samples of his attack postings over the last year or so, I'd certainly make some discreet inquiries about his occupational relationships -- both for humanitarian and liability reasons.
Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
deco at moscow.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
To: <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>; <joekc at adelphia.net>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:46 AM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] fleecing of Moscow???
> Wow. Seems like we got us a whole lotta federal offenses, then.
>
> So why don't we just acknowledge that some people use aliases, lament their
> perceived need to do so, and stick to discussing the issues at hand? Is it
> really important whether or not J is Jackie?
>
> Ripping somebody a new one in cyberspace was wrong even before murky federal
> law came into existence, so why not just get off the "accusatory insane
> lunatic" bit once and for all?
>
> keely
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> To: joekc at adelphia.net
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] fleecing of Moscow???
> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:04:35 -0800 (PST)
>
> Joe,
>
> I know for FACT that J Ford is Jackie Woolf, a city official told me. All
> you have to do is check the ISP number from J Ford and a known ISP from
> Jackie Woolf and see that they are the same person. You can check both from
> the V2020 archives.
>
> But you are free to believe what you want, like someone borrowed her
> computer. I do agree however, that if J Ford had to put her real name of
> Jackie Woolf on her emails she would sound more like herself and less like
> an accusatory insane lunatic.
>
> Her assaults against people on V2020, including members of Christ Church,
> and others, under the false name J Ford, is now a federal offense.
>
> Take Care,
>
> DJA
>
>
> joekc at adelphia.net wrote: Just a personal belief, Donovan, but I know
> Jackie Woolf and I do not think that J Ford is her.
>
> Joe
>
> ---- Donovan Arnold wrote:
> >
> > "It is just so easy for you to point fingers at people and yet you do
> NOTHING
> > to improve conditions of ANYone, including yourself."--Jackie Woolf
> >
> > Jackie, I am sorry you view my job working with the elderly and
> disabled as not helping anyone or myself. But that is your right to feel
> that way.
> >
> > Perhaps I should instead just go around bending people's antennas,
> filing false complaints against people, enforcing my personal preferences
> on others, and using foul language on the Internet while hiding my
> identity.
> >
> > Take Care,
> >
> > -DJA
> >
> > PS. Oh yeah, since your email does not give your real name, and it is
> annoying and harassing others, you are now in violation of federal law,
> Jackie Woolf, even Doug Wilson does not violate federal law.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > J Ford
> wrote: Prove it!
> >
> > It is just so easy for you to point fingers at people and yet you do
> NOTHING
> > to improve conditions of ANYone, including yourself. I mean YOU, not
> your
> > family, not your neighbors, not your "friends" - YOU.
> >
> > Just because you can say something doesn't mean you should.
> >
> > I for one am getting sick of your "muck-raking and war mongering" when
> you
> > have absolutely no intention of polishing the shovel much less taking one
> up
> > to help clean up the dog crap YOU are continually throwing about.
> >
> > If you have specific, provable, tangible items - I do NOT mean just your
> > "impressions" or "thoughts" or "I-believes" - to put out there, do so.
> > Otherwise SHUT UP!
> >
> > J :]
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >No, but what she fails to point out is that money
> > >collected by the school district can be used
> > >for raises if they do not have to use it for new buildings
> > >and building repairs. Through passing a bond they free up
> > >money in the MSD reserve for salaries.
> > >
> > >And yes, people did lie to us about the conditions of the
> > >school in an attempt to pass the levy.
> > >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >keely emerinemix wrote: Phil,
> > >
> > >The bond failed.
> > >
> > >Dr. Donicht didn't lie.
> > >
> > >There is no fraud.
> > >
> > >Raises and other contract language are negotiated between the Board of
> > >Trustees negotiators and the MEA's negotiators.
> > >
> > >I am not a negotiator.
> > >
> > >I am proud to work with the negotiators on other board issues.
> > >
> > >Bond money can't fund raises.
> > >
> > >Operating budget can't fund bonds.
> > >
> > >We have covered all of this before.
> > >
> > >I'm done.
> > >
> > >keely
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >From: "Shelly"
> > >To: ,
> > >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] fleecing of Moscow???
> > >Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:05:40 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
> > >
> > > Shawn,
> > >
> > >Please reread my statement. It says, in a questionable form, "did I hear
> > >right? Our school administrators and teachers all got better than a 4%
> > >raise?" I was asking a question. Did they? I never said the 4% elleged
> > >raise
> > >came out of the building fund.
> > >
> > >My next question for you, if your statement is factual, how did Candice
> > >Donicht promise if her Bond would pass that not one dime would go to the
> > >teachers in raises. And administration. But immediately after that Bond
> > >passed everybody got raises. In my book that is a falsehood.
> > >
> > >Phil Roderick
> > >
> > >
> > >-------Original Message-------
> > >
> > >From: Shawn Clabough
> > >Date: 01/09/06 18:43:13
> > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] fleecing of Moscow???
> > >
> > >Is this aimed at the state administration, where it rightfully should
> be?
> > >Local administrators do not have the flexibility to move monies
> earmarked
> > >for salaries to building maintenance and vice versa. Also, your
> statement
> > >“Our school administrators and teachers all got better than a 4%
> raise†is
> > >not completely accurate.
> > >Shawn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> > >On Behalf Of Shelly
> > >Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 12:11 PM
> > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >Subject: [Vision2020] fleecing of Moscow???
> > >
> > >Did I hear right? Our school administrators and teachers all got better
> > >than
> > >a 4% raise? Yet our schools continue to deteriorate? I also understand
> > >there
> > >is something like 15 million dollars in trust. Wait, did I use the right
> > >word, trust???????? Is this BEFORE or AFTER the raises? Why does this
> keep
> > >happening with the same administration?
> > >
> > >Phil Roderick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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