[Vision2020] comb-overs

Tue Jan 3 15:35:07 PST 2006

Keely, Ellen,

With all due respect, we a small disagreement.

First of all, I agree that it is unkind/unacceptable to make derogatory comments about appearance aspects in many cases:  race, ethnic origin/appearance, gender preference/style, height, unregulatable weight, etc.

However, there are certain appearance items that are suggestive but not confirmatory of certain other traits.  Without wanting to start a major slugfest (but it probably will), I'll give an example.

When I worked as a consultant, some of my advice was sought and taken on potential management, technical, and executive hires.  During the screening process it sometime happened that an applicant exhibited a red nose and cheeks -- broken and/or barely subdermal capillaries.  There can be many causes of this.  However, when you are hiring a high salaried person from whom diligence and production is needed and expected, there are two conditions that can cause this condition for which more information is needed in the evaluation of the candidate:  excessively elevated or prolonged high blood pressure or a alcohol abuse problem.

In either case a need arises from the initial observation for more information to assist in determining the risk/reward of hiring the applicant.  It would be foolish to hire a person with a long standing drinking problem unless there was evidence that this condition did not affect his past work performance and would not affect his future work performance.  Similarly, a person with a history of high blood pressure is probably not going to be a good candidate for a high stress level position -- either from their or the company's perspective.

Appearance does matter as a suggestion of other traits.  It is not determinative alone, but it raises questions that in certain situations need to be answered by further query.

Using your imagination and experience, I am sure you can think of other physical appearances including dress, hair style, hygiene, etc that are similarly suggestive.

In my experience, men with extreme comb-overs are often, but not always, vainglorious, and with other traits that accompany vaingloriousness including dishonesty about things of importance to them.

In the case of Dale Courtney we have lots of other information upon which to base an assessment of the traits suggested by his hair style:  The tendencies in his web-blots, for example, to play fast and loose with the truth whenever something seems to reflect badly upon something that he is identified with.

Rose Huskey pointed this out at the beginning of this thread about his attempt to whitewash the unchristian discrimination against those with learning disabilities at Logos School.  He often incompletely (with malice) and sometimes out of context (with malice) quotes/mischaracterizes those whom he attacks in his web-blots.  His pseudo-libertarianism is obvious -- pretending to believe in personal liberty while being the lay mouthpiece for the CCC, an organization that is a grave threat to civil liberties to people on the Palouse.

Hence, Courtney's extreme comb-over is both a symptom and a part of his vaingloriousness -- a trait he shares with his Cultmaster -- and all that goes with it.  Hence, as far as I am concerned, his comb-over and that of which it is a symptom is fair game.  [There are other games afoot that also make it fair game.  Some V 2020ers are aware of some of these.]

I doubt that we will come to any agreement about the appropriateness of bashing Courtney's falsies.  Such is the nature of things at this time .  However, I will refrain from lampooning Courtney further with the famous lines from a W. C. Fields movie uttered in all innocence by a young boy:  "Look, Ma.  At the size that man's nose.  If it was full of nickels, he'd be rich."

Cheers,

Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
deco at moscow.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ellen Roskovich 
  To: kjajmix1 at msn.com ; dmcourtn at moscow.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 11:55 AM
  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] comb-overs

  Thank you, Keely!  Every now and again the kids playing in this sandbox need to reminded of their manners.  

  Ellen

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    From:  "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
    To:  dmcourtn at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
    Subject:  [Vision2020] comb-overs
    Date:  Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:14:44 -0800
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    >One other thing -- I don't think it's all right to make fun of 
    >people's appearance.  I don't know and don't care if someone combs 
    >their hair a certain way, and I say this as someone whose hair is 
    >still in its plain, unstylish Seventies mode.  Dale and I clearly 
    >aren't pals, but appearance is irrelevant.
    >
    >keely
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Thank you, Keely!  Every now and again the kids playing in this sandbox need to reminded of their manners.  

Ellen

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  From:  "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
  To:  dmcourtn at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
  Subject:  [Vision2020] comb-overs
  Date:  Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:14:44 -0800
  >
  >
  >One other thing -- I don't think it's all right to make fun of 
  >people's appearance.  I don't know and don't care if someone combs 
  >their hair a certain way, and I say this as someone whose hair is 
  >still in its plain, unstylish Seventies mode.  Dale and I clearly 
  >aren't pals, but appearance is irrelevant.
  >
  >keely
  >
  >_________________________________________________________________
  >Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! 
  >http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
  >
  >_____________________________________________________
  >List services made available by First Step Internet, serving the 
  >communities of the Palouse since 1994.                 
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  >mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
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