[Vision2020] Domestic spying

[Sunil Ramalingam]

Is Grandpa Simpson one of the riders?


>From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
>To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Domestic spying
>Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 16:06:18 -0800
>
>Sunil,
>
>Re:    George Will Column
>
>If I were to ride tomorrow morning the 2:10 AM bus from downtown 
>Minneapolis that I referenced in the post yesterday (repeated below the 
>line) then the conversation would include:
>
>Rider F:    They say George Will is a communist.
>Rider B:    Yep.
>Rider C:    Um-Hummm!
>
>W.
>
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>Pat, et al,
>
>Many years ago when I was very poor, I worked as a Tech I for the Minnesota
>Department of Highways.  At one time I was assigned to a construction 
>survey
>team.  It was actually a very good job, paying decently, outside, and with 
>a
>crew boss with a real work ethic.  The taxpayers got their money's worth 
>out
>of us.  Often we ran instead of walked in pursuit of our tasks.
>
>On occasion we needed to work on Saturdays in the summertime.  The crew 
>boss
>had commitments for Saturday afternoons (read "golf") which meant we 
>started
>work  at 3:30 AM to accommodate his schedule.
>
>Since I was poor and had no car, I had to catch a ride on a bus at 2:10 AM
>in the morning in downtown Minneapolis about an hour's walk from where I 
>was
>living.  There was generally the same bunch of middle-aged and older riders
>on the bus, all of whom seem to know each other well.
>
>The conversation went something like this.
>
>Rider A:    They say Eisenhower was a communist.
>Rider B:    Yep.
>Rider C:    Um-Hummm!
>
>[Pause]
>
>Rider D:    They say Kennedy is a communist.
>Rider B:    Yep.
>Rider C:    Um-Hummm!
>
>[Pause]
>
>Rider E:    They say Hubert Humphrey is a communist.
>Rider B:    Yep.
>Rider C:    Um-Hummm!
>
>[Pause]
>
>Etc ...
>
>Pat Kraut says: "I was told that Northwest gifts (sic) left because of rent
>and so did hunters (sic)."
>
>Request to Pat (and certain others):
>
>If you wish for people to believe what you say, then please give your
>sources and their credentials/titles/etc so that V 2020 readers can 
>evaluate
>the probability of the truth of your remarks, especially since in this case
>you are disputing the accuracy of another poster's statements who 
>apparently
>did some research.  Its not that I don't believe you, but I have no way of
>assessing the worth of the information you contribute without knowing
>something about from whence it came.
>
>I noticed earlier today a post from Donovan making a bunch of statements
>about the PEM and some of its occupants.  That post did not mention any
>sources and was contradictory to other information which I believe has a
>high probability of being true, hence I drew my own conclusions.
>
>However, Pat before you get your shooting irons out and head out to Saddle
>Ridge steaming with eyes ablaze, I do not equate you with Donovan.  Though
>you and I have different worldviews and very different life experiences, I
>believe that you are basically an honest, good-hearted person.  I have
>noticed that some of your actual observations on the local scene,
>particularly about traffic and law enforcement problems, agree with mine.
>
>It is just that in my dotage, I need all the help I can get to determine 
>the
>truth of statements that I might sometime have to depend upon for my words
>and/or actions.
>
>Thank you.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Sunil Ramalingam" 
><sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 3:55 PM
>Subject: [Vision2020] Domestic spying
>
>
>>Truthout has this column about the Administrations's position on domestic 
>>spying by George Will, who has yet to be labelled a leftist:
>>
>>http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/021806Z.shtml
>>
>>Sunil
>>
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