[Vision2020] Plan in Action

[Pat Kraut]

However, a good many of us feel like we are listening in on a private matter
between a pastor and part of his congregation.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Plan in Action


Influence = the act or power of producing an effect without apparent
exertion of force or direct exercise of command: corrupt interference with
authority for personal gain; the power or capacity of causing an effect in
indirect or intangible ways

Informing =  to make known; to communicate knowledge to; to impart
information or knowledge; to give information (as of another's wrongdoing)


No one has a gun to your head and no one is trying to force you to believe
what you obviously do not wish to believe.  I am imparting information for
the sake of informing the public of what a man of Wilson's "influence" is
really all about.

If this were a politician who was blaming his actions on his underlings,
running illegal operations out of homes, encouraging tax-evasive actions for
their "constituents", etc.  I'd venture to guess you'd be one of the first
in line saying "he's gotta go!"  What Wilson is doing is morally repugnant
and ethically despicable.  What makes it worst is that he does it behind the
shield of being an ordained/anointed minister - WHICH (again) HE IS NOT!!!

He influences votes and policies that this community has to live with and
under.  People have lost jobs, homes, family due to him and his
words/actions.

Take it or don't - I really could care less.  But don't expect that people
will stop talking about it or writing here about it.  This mess has made
headlines and blog sights across the country.  You want it to stop here,
right here, where it is happening?  Who's head is in what sandbar?

J  :]




>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
>To: "Michael" <metzler at moscow.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Plan in Action
>Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 10:35:05 -0800
>
>Mr. Metzler, Please reread the actual words that I used in my post. I am
>not "castigating"you. I am not calling on you to answer charges. I am not
>accusing you of any evil, specific or otherwise. What I said was that I do
>not understand your particular complaint with regard to Christ Church and
>Doug Wilson. Nothing more and nothing less. It *seems* a matter internal to
>the church and of no interest to those outside it. Providing information on
>your own web page for those who wish to seek it is a reasonable thing.
>Someone else taking it and attempting to influence my opinion and the rest
>of V2020 does not.
>
>Sincerely,
>G. Crabtree
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Michael
>   To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>   Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:32 PM
>   Subject: [Vision2020] Plan in Action
>
>
>   Crabtree Writes:
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>   I have seriously tried to comprehend the dastardly deed that seems to
>have inflamed Mr. Metzler .it is just too arcane to understand how anyone
>outside the group could work up much of a lather over
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>   it.
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>   Me:
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>   Mr. Crabtree,
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>   If you wish to throw me into the heap of people you enjoy castigating
>here, please mention something specific so that I can answer your charges.
>I really don't care to get into any discussions with you, but I'm hoping
>you would give me the ability to defend myself by referencing some specific
>evil I've done that you are apparently very concerned about.
>
>
>
>   Thank you
>
>   Michael Metzler
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