[Vision2020] Petition
Pat Kraut
pkraut at moscow.com
Fri Feb 17 17:10:35 PST 2006
I agree with the wonderment of wanting to put in a Super anything when the
mall has not been able to keep corp stores because they don't make enough. I
was told that Northwest gifts left because of rent and so did hunters. I
know of local owners who were forced out so that they could bring in corps
years ago it isn't anything new. Yes, every few years they go through it all
again...so, I am not sure what Walmart sees that makes them want to put in a
new store of any size.
----- Original Message -----
From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Petition
First of all, Hunter's Candy left PM a while ago, not because of the rent
but because Mr. Hunter wanted to be able to be closed on Sundays and the
mall management did not like that idea. If stores are in the mall, they -
by contract - have to be open whenever the mall is open. He also says there
many issues that had been unresolved for years that he simply did not want
to have to deal with anymore; so when his countract came up for renewal, he
chose to leave.
Marketplace Gifts left due to a lack of sales; "The last couple of years
were not good." Their coroporate offices are in trouble, as are a lot of
businesses around the country, and the decision to close "the smaller stores
around the country" was made. The Spokane stores have closed or are in the
process of closing, as well.
There are already two/three stores asking about that space. No decisions
have been made, but it could be another gift store or a plus-size women's
clothing store will go in there.
Winco may not be accessable to the bus riders, but only because the bus no
longer goes through the mall lot - NOT because of anything that Winco
did/didn't do.
And I just talked to the mall office - the PM is NOT up for sale. "Its just
a rumor. No truth to it." Take that for what its worth.
With very few exceptions, most of the stores in the mall are NOT locally
owned - they are part of a chain or corporation.
Like I said before, malls go through change all the time. I remember
five/six years ago, PM went through this same turn-over routine. It simply
happens.
J :]
>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Bruce and Jean Livingston <jeanlivingston at turbonet.com>,
>vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Petition
>Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:05:29 -0800 (PST)
>
>Bruce,
>
> The reason the Mall is losing stores is because the owners are trying to
>sell it. So they are jacking up their rent on locally owned shops, banning
>local businesses from contracting with them and giving longer and cheaper
>contracts with large corporate chain stores. This increases the value and
>appeal of the Mall to the buyer.
>
> The locally owned businesses, like Marketplace Gifts and Hunter's Candy
>are not leaving because of lack of sales, they are leaving because the
>owners raise their rent every month until they find it ridiculously priced
> to stay there. After the Mall removes the locally owned businesses, it
>re-contracts the space to chain store, like Ross.
>
> I am surprised that all these people attacking Wal-Mart and pretending
>to care about locally owned businesses do not care local businesses are
>being squeezed out of their territory in favor of big chain corporations.
>Win-co is also no longer accessible to those that need the bus--often
>those that need the lower grocery prices most.
>
> Take Care,
>
> _DJA
>
>Bruce and Jean Livingston <jeanlivingston at turbonet.com> wrote:
>Assuming arguendo that what you were "told" has a basis in fact, isn't it
>just as likely, more likely, that the reason that the share-owners in a
>retail-based business (that owns and operates the mall and is all about
>making money) fear that a Super Wal-Mart may impact their business and
>make it less profitable, and therefore that it is time to get out now
>(sell the mall), before vacancies in the mall become greater and the
>business they are trying to sell goes down further in value?
>
> Bruce Livingston
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
> To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Petition
>
>
>
>| No, I am saying that we don't have a good reputation towards business
>and it
>| is spreading...did you know the mall was for sale? I was told that they
>had
>| 'read the handwriting on the wall' and I believe it could very well be
>true.
>|
>| ----- Original Message -----
>| From: <joekc at adelphia.net>
>| To: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
>| Cc: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>| Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:52 PM
>| Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Petition
>|
>|
>| Is the suggestion that businesses are leaving the mall because some
>folks
>| don't want a Super Wal-Mart in town? I just don't get it.
>|
>| --
>| Joe Campbell
>|
>| ---- Pat Kraut <pkraut at moscow.com> wrote:
>|
>| =============
>| Today I needed to buy a red shirt for a granddaughter who will perform
>at
>| the jazz festival and has already outgrown her red Christmas shirt.
>| Gottschalks was the only store in town with anything red in her size.
>If had
>| more time I'd be going to Spokane. There are so many stores in the mall
>| closing that I wonder what it will look like in the future. Are we
>going to
>| get a boarded up mall? Do any of you know that the mall is for sale by
>its
>| management company? The attitude toward business here is going to shut
>us
>| down not save us from anything.
>|
>|
>| ----- Original Message -----
>| From: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>
>| To: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>| Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:24 PM
>| Subject: [Vision2020] Petition
>|
>|
>| I went into Wal-Mart today, and there was a young lady sitting at a
>| table soliciting those who entered to sign her petition for a Wal-Mart
>| Supercenter. I take this as an indication that Wal-Mart is feeling
>| the heat.
>|
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