[Vision2020] Plan in Action

[g. crabtree]

Mr. Fox, Unfortunately you have caused me to lose a wager. I bet that you would not become personally and anatomically abusive and insulting till I had been regularly posting to this list for at least 90 days. 

Michael causes me no "itch" what so ever. I think that in general he's a fairly OK guy and the only reason he's involved in my posting at all is because he is referenced several times by "ford" in his/her rants. The fact that he keeps most of his Byzantine musings on his own site and doesn't preach to the anti-Wilson choir on the vis makes him top notch in my book.

To look at my posts and take from them any hint of "banning" or censorship is to completely and I suspect deliberately misread what I have written. A fairly common tactic among the I loathe CC crowd. For me to suggest an alternative to "fords" endless carrying on is hardly totalitarian, anti "civil liberties," or "despotic." Over blown rhetoric in the extreme.

With regard to our personal interaction, referred to in your last sentence, which has been strictly business and non personal. How has this been in any way analogous to what transpires on this forum? I don't recall oppressing you or denying you any of your God given rights. Please enlighten me.

G. Crabtree
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Art Deco 
  To: Vision 2020 
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Plan in Action


  Michael,

  Apparently some of use are causing Mr. Crabtree an unscratchable, deeply annoying anal itch by our various interests.  He wishes that we would find other interest.  

  Scratch him off the list of those concerned about civil liberties or those respecting the choice of individuals in a free society of topics to talk about or issues to concern themselves about.  Like Donovan, put him on the list for banning discussing anything that he doesn't personally deem proper (which urgings, of course as any not total fool could see, is quite counterproductive).

  Crabtree is simply another would be community despot telling us what to talk about and how to talk about it masquerading otherwise.  But he is not totally a hypocrite.  He is in person like he is on V 2020.

  W.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael 
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:32 PM
  Subject: [Vision2020] Plan in Action


  Crabtree Writes:

   

  I have seriously tried to comprehend the dastardly deed that seems to have inflamed Mr. Metzler .it is just too arcane to understand how anyone outside the group could work up much of a lather over 

  it.

   

  Me:

   

  Mr. Crabtree, 

   

  If you wish to throw me into the heap of people you enjoy castigating here, please mention something specific so that I can answer your charges. I really don't care to get into any discussions with you, but I'm hoping you would give me the ability to defend myself by referencing some specific evil I've done that you are apparently very concerned about. 

   

  Thank you

  Michael Metzler



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