[Vision2020] Candidate, Former Marine, Says Bush Should Be Impeached

Thu Feb 16 23:56:57 PST 2006

Sunil,

 The impeachment takes place in the House of  Representatives. The Senate does not vote on impeachment, EVER. It  votes to remove or not remove the President based only on the charges  set forth by the House of Representatives.

 And no, the  correct place to start with the process of removing a person from  political office is not with a resolution, but with consensus that a  crime has been committed.

 I do not agree with Bush's decision  to go to war, but then again I did not vote for the War Resolution that  60% of Democrats did. It Bush is impeachable for what happened in Iraq  so is every Senator that voted to go to war. 

  Why is it that Senators are not impeachable for giving a drunken idiot unchecked use of the US Military?

  I am glad we can agree that the Democratic approach of removing Republicans from office is not that stellar. 

  _DJA

Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:  Ah, using that political science degree again, Donovan.  But doesn't the 
article say he's urging Rhode Island's CONGRESSMEN (emphasis added) to 
co-sponsor an impeachment resolution?

Isn't that the correct course of action if that is where the impeachment 
process begins?

And then, let me see, doesn't the actual impeachment trial take place in the 
Senate?  So if this guy were to be elected to the Senate, wouldn't he be 
able to vote on the issue, should such a thing come to pass?

If you want to critique whether or not this is a sound strategy for the 
Dems, that's another matter, and have at it.  But don't you think you're a 
little off-base if you criticize him for not knowing how the impeachment 
process works?

Sunil

>From: Donovan Arnold 
>To: Tom Hansen ,        Moscow Vision 2020 
>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020]  Candidate, Former Marine,Says Bush Should Be 
>Impeached
>Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:16:55 -0800 (PST)
>
>WOW! Stop the presses, a Democratic senatorial candidate in a liberal  
>state says Bush should be impeached. What a rarity. To bad he cannot  
>explain why he is running for the Senate when it the House that does  the 
>impeaching.
>
>  I know I want to nominate the Democratic  candidate that has no ideas of 
>his own and does not understand how the  impeachment process works but can 
>hurl the most insults and radical  statements they can at Bush and other 
>Republicans. That way we can  spend another 2 years wondering why we cannot 
>beat them even though  they had only a 27% approval rating.
>
>  If Democrats would learn  that the way to win elections is to focus on 
>the future, have a  positive attitude and explain what would be different 
>if they were in  office and why it would be better, then we could win some 
>elections and  make this country a better place. But we won't, because it 
>is easier to  complain about the past and Bush bash then it is to lead and 
>present  new ideas and solutions.
>
>   _DJA
>
>Tom Hansen  wrote:  >From today's Army times 
>(www.ArmyTimes.com)
>
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>Candidate, former Marine, says Bush should be impeached
>
>By Rick Maze
>Times staff writer
>
>A former Marine running for the U.S. Senate says President Bush should be
>impeached for taking the nation to war in Iraq.
>
>Carl Sheller, running as a Democratic candidate in the Rhode Island 
>primary,
>wants his fellow Democratic candidates to join him in urging the state's 
>two
>Democratic congressmen, Patrick Kennedy and James Langevin, to co-sponsor a
>resolution calling for Bush's impeachment. The resolution, HRes 635, is
>sponsored by Rep. John Conyers Jr., D-Mich., and has 24 co-sponsors.
>
>It calls for creation of a committee to investigate possible impeachment
>charges against President Bush and Vice President Cheney for misleading
>Congress and the American public about reasons for beginning military
>operations against Iraq.
>
>Sheller, a former Marine captain, said in a statement that he faults the
>Bush administration for many things, among them being wrong on defense and
>national security issues.
>
>"Bush lied about being strong on defense," Sheller said. "His military
>spending shortchanges combat troops and veterans while enriching cronies 
>and
>contractors."
>
>Sheller's campaign has paid for billboards along Interstate 95 in Rhode
>Island calling for Bush's impeachment.
>
>Sheller was a Marine combat and staff officer in the early 1990s, mostly in
>the reserves, were he was an armor officer. He was mobilized in support of
>Operation Desert Storm, although he did not see combat. He was a family
>liaison officer.
>
>In a letter to Rhode Island veterans last summer seeking their support for
>his campaign, Sheller summed up his service in one sentence: "Often, I
>served well and sometimes I fell on my sword."
>
>Sheller said he joined the Marine Corps after missing out on a nomination 
>to
>the U.S. Air Force Academy because of a broken wrist.
>
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>
>The state motto of Rhode Island is "Hope".  I believe we can add a
>heart-felt "Semper Fi" to it as well.
>
>Pro patria,
>
>Tom "Proud to be a Veteran" Hansen
>Moscow, Idaho
>
>"I love my country but fear my government."
>
>- Author Unknown
>
>
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