[Vision2020] Killing?

Matt Decker mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Wed Feb 15 16:36:52 PST 2006


Joan,

Might as well add Yugoslavia and Somalia under Clinton. Oops I forgot to 
mention when he tomahawk missiled the chemical factory that had a bunch of 
innocent people.

MD





>From: Joan Opyr <joanopyr at moscow.com>
>To: Vision2020 Moscow <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Killing?
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:36:46 -0800
>
>On February 15th, BJ Swanson wrote:
>
>>  Speaking of killing, here's a quiz:
>>
>>Who has directed the killing of the most humans?
>>
>>     1.. Saddam Hussein
>>     2.. Osama bin Laden
>>     3.. George W. Bush
>
>I think I'd add a few other massacres to this list -- massacres for which 
>we, the United States, were either directly responsible and/or might have 
>intervened to mitigate or prevent:
>
>1. Rwanda -- 800,000 dead
>
>2. Sudan -- 2 million dead and counting
>
>3. East Timor -- 200,000 plus.  [Not to get you riled up, Phil, but the 
>Indonesian Army invaded East Timor in 1975 with the economic and military 
>support of the United States.  It's true that Indonesia is a predominantly 
>Muslim country, but we can't legitimately blame the invasion and occupation 
>of East Timor on Islamic jihadists, anymore than we can blame the U. S. 
>invasion of Iraq on fundamentalist Chrisitans, though this country is 
>predominantly Christian and the current occupant of the White House is a 
>radical fundamentalist.]
>
>4. G. H. W. Bush's invasion of Panama -- 5,000 plus, many buried in mass 
>graves
>
>And, while we're at it, let's cowboy up and take our fair share of the 
>blame for those crimes committed by Saddam Hussein back when he was our 
>tax- and military-supported puppet.  For those of you with good memories 
>(or, even better, reference skills), Donald Rumsfeld visited with Saddam 
>Hussein on behalf of the Reagan Administration back in 1985.  This visit 
>took place shortly after Hussein ordered the torture and execution of 
>140-some Shiite men and boys in the city of Dujail, a massacre we knew 
>about when Rumsfeld made his visit and warmly shook Hussein by the hand.  
>We were tighter than ticks with Iraq back then, a political alliance that 
>remained firm and steady until our falling out over Iraq's invasion of 
>Kuwait in 1991.  Last but not least, let's remember that when Hussein 
>launched his chemical attacks on the Kurds, it was the Reagan party line to 
>blame Iran.
>
>So, if I were to answer BJ's question, I'd be inclined to add Hussein's 
>Iraqi execution totals for the years 1985 to 1991 to the United States' 
>present tally.  What would we get then?  You do the math.
>
>Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
>www.joanopyr.com
>
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