[Vision2020] Mailbox assault again

[Matt Decker]

J,

O what will I ever do if you think I am not a man of my word? I don't know 
if I can continue on.

As for the paintings on buildings. Heck I find it as a creative 
representation of the youngsters mind. In this artist town I would think 
more would feel like that.

Have fun with that one

Side note: if you must say something else can you please do off list so we 
can spare the Vizz our childish behavior.
Thank you
Matt

>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mailbox assault again
>Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 00:59:59 -0800
>
>Ok, so apparently you are not a man of your word.  You asked for me to move
>onto more public-minded issues - I did and yet you still slam me.  Go
>figure.
>
>As far as saving tax-payer money - your "plan" would not do that.  It would
>be the City who provided the paint and the labor as it is City property 
>that
>the mess is on and THEY are responsible for providing for the cleaning-up 
>of
>said property.  If it was on private things, that would be different, but
>even then a person could not just go upto said property and start painting
>over the mess some non-civic minded fool made.
>
>Don't see you volunteering to do it, either.  There goes your mask of being
>civic-minded.
>
>
>
>J  :]
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
> >To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mailbox assault again
> >Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:07:09 -0800
> >
> >J,
> >
> >A got a great way to save tax payers money, get rid of the graffiti, and
> >give you something besides thinking of Doug. Donate your time and paint 
>the
> >cans and walls. Heck I'll even pay for the paint.
> >
> >Matt
> >
> >
> >>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mailbox assault again
> >>Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:58:20 -0800
> >>
> >>2 years ago?!  Ok, that's really relevant, now isn't it.
> >>
> >>Well, I'm off this line of...em, stuff.  How about someone from the City
> >>addressing the issue of the graffiti on the shop fence?  Anyway that 
>could
> >>get taken down or painted over soon?  I've noticed that there are 
>several
> >>instances of the same kind of writing down town on a dumpster, a power 
>box
> >>and a couple of buildings.  Unless we're going for the "ghetto look" I
> >>don't
> >>see why these can't be painted or washed out?!
> >>
> >>Anyone?
> >>
> >>J  :]
> >>
> >>There - better?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
> >> >To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mailbox assault again
> >> >Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:47:20 -0800
> >> >
> >> >J,
> >> >
> >> >The smearing happened about two years ago.
> >> >
> >> >J, if you would just quit with your antics, I will drop this. Please 
>if
> >>you
> >> >must, create your own site and take it elsewhere. Vission 2020, in
> >>theory
> >> >is
> >> >a great site. When it is used for yours and others rants and personal
> >> >agendas, that is when people start leaving or using the delete button. 
>I
> >> >would hope that we can all discuss local and interesting global topics
> >> >without personal gain.
> >> >
> >> >Until something else
> >> >Matt
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >> > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mailbox assault again
> >> > >Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 14:46:08 -0800
> >> > >
> >> > >M,
> >> > >
> >> > >Not to prolong this but just when did Gary have his windows smeared?
> >> >This
> >> > >is the first I've heard of it.  Doesn't mean it didn't happen or 
>that
> >>he
> >> > >didn't say something before, but I have never heard this before.
> >> > >
> >> > >If it did, it never should have.  And yes, I HAVE condemned any and
> >>all
> >> > >such
> >> > >actions no matter whom they involved.  There are several other 
>people
> >>on
> >> > >this list who have had things like this happen to them and THEY have
> >> >never
> >> > >accused anyone or even suggested anyone be considered as
> >>"suspects"...in
> >> > >fact, many of them never even reported the acts to the police.
> >> > >
> >> > >BTW...I am not tring or intending to "get (any)where with" you so 
>that
> >> > >suites us both rather well, I'd say.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >J  :]
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > >From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
> >> > > >To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mailbox assault again
> >> > > >Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 13:16:50 -0800
> >> > > >
> >> > > >J,
> >> > > >
> >> > > >I will not disagree that if someone is falsely accused or if 
>crimes
> >>are
> >> > > >being committed, then said just things should be stopped. Crimes
> >> >against
> >> > > >persons or property whether yours, mine, or Dougs, should be 
>halted
> >>or
> >> > > >investigated. With that said, if a crime or mischif is occuring 
>why
> >> > > >shouldn't the cops be called?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >What stikes me as funny is the fact that you are trying to be this
> >> > > >concerned
> >> > > >citizen, looking out for everyones welfare. Where were you when
> >>Dougs
> >> > > >mailbox had that smelly substance in it? You bad mouthed Doug
> >>calling
> >> >him
> >> > >a
> >> > > >liar, that where. How about when Gary had crap smeared on his
> >>business
> >> > > >window? So in other words quit with your lies. I don't buy it and
> >>most
> >> > > >others don't either. All I am asking is take your OBSESSION
> >>elsewhere.
> >> >I
> >> > > >know it won't happen but hey I've tried.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Many Viss members are tired of this rant. Mr. Metsler has even 
>asked
> >> >you
> >> > >to
> >> > > >stop, along with Chas. If you want to inform the public about this
> >>man
> >> > >and
> >> > > >the abuses he has done, try to do it in an informative way. Not 
>the
> >> > > >obsessive rants spewed out of you fingers on a daily basis. Until
> >>that
> >> > > >point
> >> > > >you get nowhere with me.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Matt
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >> > > > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> > > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mailbox assault again
> >> > > > >Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 19:08:39 -0800
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >I'm not going to prolong this outside of saying....
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >This DOES affect the community in ways people like YOU refuse to
> >> > > > >acknowledge.  If he is willing to falsely accuse the group of us
> >>he
> >> > >has,
> >> > > > >what makes YOU safe from his accusation?  Just because you are 
>not
> >>in
> >> > >his
> >> > > > >radar at this particular moment does not mean you never will be.
> >>In
> >> > > > >addition, the person/s that ARE harassing him need to be 
>stopped.
> >> >The
> >> > > >fact
> >> > > > >that someone felt it necessary to let the community know about
> >>this
> >> >and
> >> > > > >other incidents like it should tell you there is a problem.  I 
>am
> >>not
> >> > >the
> >> > > > >originator of said communication, I just passed it on along with 
>a
> >> > > > >statement that those of us who are continually being accused by
> >>Doug
> >> >as
> >> > > >his
> >> > > > >"attackers" had NOTHING to do with this or any *ANY* incident
> >> >involving
> >> > > > >Doug Wilson and his home/property.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >Of course, the graffiti that has been hitting this particular 
>area
> >>of
> >> > > >town
> >> > > > >may not DIRECTLY affect you or your family, but it does affect 
>you
> >>in
> >> > > >that
> >> > > > >it is YOUR (and all of our) tax monies that go towards paying 
>for
> >>the
> >> > > > >clean-up.  As well, it is OUR (not Doug's) tax monies paying to
> >> > > >investigate
> >> > > > >false charges.  Since Doug and his bunch refuse to pay taxes,
> >>basing
> >> > > >their
> >> > > > >claim on being "non-profit" (BTW, aren't np's supposed to stay 
>OUT
> >>of
> >> > > > >political campaigns?) I see this as just another abuse of a 
>system
> >>he
> >> > > > >continues to complain about but seemingly has no problem in 
>using
> >> >when
> >> > >it
> >> > > > >suites him.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >And I will remind you I do NOT hate Doug nor any member of his
> >> >church.
> >> > > > >What I hate, as Martin Luther King, Jr. said, is the sins he
> >>commits
> >> >in
> >> > > > >God's name, especially when he calls this town and it's citizens
> >>his
> >> > > >enemy.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >As far as taking this somewhere else - no.  As noted above, this
> >>DOES
> >> > > > >affect the ENTIRE community in one form or another.  Deal with 
>it
> >>or
> >> > >just
> >> > > > >ignore it and let it continue...either way, until he stops this
> >>kind
> >> >of
> >> > > > >abuse of the systems, it will continue.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >End.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >J  :]
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >>From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
> >> > > > >>To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> > > > >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mailbox assault again
> >> > > > >>Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 15:14:38 -0800
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>J,
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>For the umpTEENth time can you please take your hatred 
>elsewhere.
> >> >You
> >> > > > >>couldn't even stop on X-mas day. Your obsession with this man 
>is
> >> > >scary.
> >> > > > >>Please if you must continue, can you please, no wait, pretty
> >>please
> >> > >with
> >> > > > >>sugar on top take it somewhere else.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>Thank you
> >> > > > >>matt
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >> > > > >>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> > > > >>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mailbox assault again
> >> > > > >>>Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 15:05:45 -0800
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>>You know, if YOU had been the victim  - Yes! VICTIM!! - of a
> >>false
> >> > > >police
> >> > > > >>>report or two, had people asking you what made you do it, had 
>it
> >> > >affect
> >> > > > >>>your
> >> > > > >>>personal and business life, I know you'd think differently.
> >> >Whether
> >> > > >you
> >> > > > >>>want to admit it or not, Doug started this by falsely accusing
> >> > >several
> >> > > > >>>people of doing some really destructive and mean things to him
> >>and
> >> > >his
> >> > > > >>>home/property.  Not a single one of us would EVER think to do
> >>these
> >> > > > >>>things,
> >> > > > >>>not even our relatives would.  However, it is obvious from the
> >> >recent
> >> > > > >>>events
> >> > > > >>>as well as events of the past two/three years, Doug and his
> >>bunch
> >> >are
> >> > > >NOT
> >> > > > >>>above doing things like this or above making false charges
> >>against
> >> > > >people
> >> > > > >>>HE
> >> > > > >>>DOES NOT EVEN KNOW!
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>>While I am "sorry" about your being offended - I am NOT sorry
> >>for
> >> > > >letting
> >> > > > >>>the public know that even though SOMEone is continuing to go
> >>around
> >> > > > >>>Doug's
> >> > > > >>>house - IT IS NOT ANY OF US that he has previously named - so
> >>stop
> >> > >with
> >> > > > >>>the
> >> > > > >>>accusations!
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>>And BTW, how is Doug showing "christian charity" when he
> >>violates a
> >> > > > >>>COMMANDMENT and "bares false witness"?  I'd like to see you go
> >> >after
> >> > > >HIM
> >> > > > >>>for
> >> > > > >>>that bit of un-pastor-like behavior, but I'm not holding my
> >>breath.
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>>J  :]
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>>P.S.  I still think you're a nice guy and all - I just think
> >>you're
> >> >a
> >> > > >bit
> >> > > > >>>off on this one.  No offense meant or extended, ok?
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> >From: Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com>
> >> > > > >>> >To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >> > > > >>> >CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> > > > >>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mailbox assault again
> >> > > > >>> >Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:51:28 -0800
> >> > > > >>> >
> >> > > > >>> >On 12/25/06, J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > >>> >
> >> > > > >>> > > WARNING:  Blue Toyota Pick-up truck on the loose and
> >> >apparently,
> >> > > >is
> >> > > > >>> > > "harassing" Dougie-BOY Wilson's house.
> >>http://poohsthink.com,
> >> > >"On
> >> > > > >>>Being
> >> > > > >>> >A Good Neighbor".
> >> > > > >>> >
> >> > > > >>> > > TO BE SURE - it is not I, Jackie, Tom, Terry, Charlie or
> >>even
> >> > > > >>>Michael;
> >> > > > >>> >NOT ONE SINGLE ONE OF US OWNS SUCH A VEHICLE.  If in doubt 
>of
> >> >that
> >> > > > >>>claim -
> >> > > > >>> > > tough....its true.
> >> > > > >>> >
> >> > > > >>> >Sigh.  Maybe I just define a few words differently.  Words
> >>like
> >> > > > >>> >"juvenile," "sophomoric," "lame," "embarrassing," and
> >>"cretinous"
> >> > > > >>> >apply to the above excerpt.
> >> > > > >>> >
> >> > > > >>> >Words like "example of Christian charity," and "maturity"
> >>don't.
> >> > > > >>> >
> >> > > > >>> >Maybe my Funk & Wagnalls is out of date, or maybe my 
>tolerance
> >> >for
> >> > > > >>> >petulant and childish behavior in putative adults has grown
> >> > >thinner.
> >> > > > >>> >At any rate, I'm not going pretend this type of asininity is
> >>okay
> >> > >any
> >> > > > >>> >longer, regardless of the source.
> >> > > > >>> >
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