[Vision2020] Pat nails it on Iraq

[Tony]

Saundra, I enjoyed your message of tolerance during the holiday season. 
Your point that one is rendering a community service when they attempt to 
engage in dialog with those they disagree with was spot on.  As you so 
accurately observed, "It is feedback from our peers that helps us learn what 
is socially acceptable and what isn't..."

Your call for more diverse views on this forum is timely and appropriate.  I 
am heartened to hear that you appreciate my contribution as much as I do 
yours.

God bless,    -Tony
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at roadrunner.com>
To: "'lfalen'" <lfalen at turbonet.com>; <debismith at moscow.com>; 
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Pat nails it on Iraq


> Roger Falen wrote:
> "Tony has been tring yo be more civil ( with some relapses)."
>
> What fairyland are you living in?!?!?  Truly, Roger -- you've always
> impressed me as in intelligent man.  Surely you've not fallen for Tony's
> latest tactic of cushioning his insults of and attacks on individuals and
> groups between empty, insincere, and sarcastic platitudes?!?!
>
> Besides, didn't your family or your church or your school or your friends
> ever teach you that you get back what you put out in this worlds? 
> Sometimes
> that accountability happens on Judgment Day, and sometimes it additionally
> happens here & now.  That some people are sick & tired of being attacked 
> and
> maligned by Tony and others is perfectly understandable.  Indeed, one 
> might
> think those responding to his nonsense are performing a community service
> :-)  It is feedback from our peers that helps us learn what is socially
> acceptable and what isn't, and as long as people try, there's always the
> *hope* that something might penetrate that thick little skull of Tony's.
> I'm not holding my breath, but . . .
>
> Roger also wrote:
> "Tony should be entitled to his opinion . . . "
>
> Everyone IS entitled to their opinions, Roger, and it's rather 
> disingenuous
> of you to imply otherwise.  However, with the expression of opinion comes
> accountability.  If Tony or others consistently choose to express that
> opinion in the hateful, insulting, and/or attacking manner that's become
> their V2020 signatures, then none of us should be surprised when they get
> back what they put out.  Lord knows that Tony & others have proven time &
> again that facts and reason mean nothing to them . . .
>
> Roger also wrote:
> ". . . do you think it is ok for those on the left to demean people with
> right wing view. Lets apply the same standards to every one."
>
> Why, Roger?  You *certainly* didn't apply the same standards to everyone.
>
> I'm incredibly disappointed that when someone who has been ***directly***
> attacked and harassed responds, you take her to task.  Yet you've ignored
> Tony's repeated sexual harassment of V2020 participants, you've ignored 
> his
> racism, and you've remained silent about his ugly and vicious attacks on
> liberals, local and otherwise.
>
> I'm disappointed, and I fear what you've chosen to remain silent about is
> just as telling as what you've chosen to speak out against in this 
> instance.
>
>
> JMHO,
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
> - Edmund Burke
>
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> Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum
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