[Vision2020] Pat nails it on Iraq

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Tue Dec 19 13:24:03 PST 2006


Ellen

I think I just said I did not excuse Tony' s derogatory posts. I do not agree with  his nasty posts any more than I do with anyone else's.
-----Original message-----
From: "Ellen Roskovich" gussie443 at hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:01:28 -0800
To: lfalen at turbonet.com,  thansen at moscow.com,  debismith at moscow.com,  tonytime at clearwire.net,  vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Pat nails it on Iraq

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> Well, Roger, I haven't noticed you publicly scolding Tony for some of
> his nastiness.  
> 
> Ellen A. Roskovich
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> From:  lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> Reply-To:  lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> To:  "Ellen Roskovich" <gussie443 at hotmail.com>, thansen at moscow.com,
> debismith at moscow.com, tonytime at clearwire.net, vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject:  Re: [Vision2020] Pat nails it on Iraq
> Date:  Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:43:01 -0800
> >Thats fine Ellen, but do you think it is ok for those on the left to
> demean people with right wing view. Lets apply the same standards to
> every one.
> >
> >Roge
> >-----Original message-----
> >From: "Ellen Roskovich" gussie443 at hotmail.com
> >Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:36:04 -0800
> >To: thansen at moscow.com,  lfalen at turbonet.com,  debismith at moscow.com, 
> tonytime at clearwire.net,  vision2020 at moscow.com
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Pat nails it on Iraq
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > During some of those so-called "relapses" he's been hammering on
> Sunil
> > > pretty damn hard also.  He's crude. . . and I for one don't find
> his
> > > nasty comments thought provoking in the least.
> > >
> > > Ellen A. Roskovich
> > >
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> > >
> > > From:  "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> > > To:  "'lfalen'" <lfalen at turbonet.com>, <debismith at moscow.com>,
> > > "'Tony'" <tonytime at clearwire.net>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > Subject:  Re: [Vision2020] Pat nails it on Iraq
> > > Date:  Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:04:47 -0800
> > > >Roger Falen stated:
> > > >
> > > >"Tony has been tring yo be more civil ( with some relapses."
> > > >
> > > >Oh, really, Mr. Falen.  How about a short, quick review?
> > > >
> > > >From:
> > >
> >http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2006-December/038985.html
> > > >
> > > >"These leftists have not believed in their country since 1968. 
> They
> > > view
> > > >anything America does as 'imperialistic aggression.'  They feel
> that
> > > as such
> > > >aggressors, we deserved what happened on 911.  They, whether they
> are
> > > >conscious of it or not, share the goals of our enemies.  They are
> > > what are
> > > >frequently referred to as the enemy from within . . . "
> > > >
> > > >I assume that you, Mr. Falen, file this under a minor "relapse"?
> > > >
> > > >I have NEVER faltered in my faith to my country, Mr. Falen. 
> Unless
> > > he can
> > > >substantiate his claim, he owes us (and the rest of the list) a
> major
> > > >apology.
> > > >
> > > >Tom Hansen
> > > >SFC, US Army (Retired)
> > > >Moscow, Idaho
> > > >
> > > >"I love my country but fear my government."
> > > >
> > > >- Author Unknown
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> > > [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> > > >On Behalf Of lfalen
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:50 AM
> > > >To: debismith at moscow.com; Tony; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > >Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Pat nails it on Iraq
> > > >
> > > >Debbi
> > > >It is not necessary to be nasty. Tony has been tring yo be more
> civil
> > > ( with
> > > >some relapses). Your posts are no better.
> > > >Roger
> > > >-----Original message-----
> > > >From: debismith at moscow.com
> > > >Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:28:34 -0800
> > > >To: "Tony" tonytime at clearwire.net,  vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Pat nails it on Iraq
> > > >
> > > > > Ok, now reality has really gone sideways. ToeKnee telling Pat
> she
> > > is
> > > >persuasive? Too much!!!
> > > > > ROTFL for about a week!!! The nitwit leading the stupid!!!!
> > > Staying the
> > > >course for the two of
> > > > > them is defending the indefensible, believing the
> unbelievable,
> > > and
> > > >patting one another on the
> > > > > arthritic shoulders.....1955 revisited... Sad little people
> with
> > > no brain
> > > >cells, just rhetoric and
> > > > > reguritation.
> > > > > Debi R-s
> > > > >
> > > > > From:           "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
> > > > > To:             "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
> > > > > Date sent:       Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:06:47 -0800
> > > > > Copies to:       vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > > Subject:         Re: [Vision2020] Pat nails it on Iraq
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > Pat, thank you for so persuasively stating the obvious
> regarding
> > > Iraq.
> > > > > But don't wait for these terrorist sympathizers to acknowledge
> it.
> > > > > They only understand staying the course when it comes to
> > > campaigning
> > > > > for their right to marry another sodomite or kill their unborn
> > > child.
> > > > > God knows their stamina is never-ending on those issues.
> > > > >
> > > > > Merry Christmas,    -T----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
> > > > > To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:45 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] tony's worries for american women
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >I guess you do not know about Saddams two sons using the
> local
> > > > > >elementary
> > > > > > school for sexual foder with 12 year olds. Or all the other
> > > rapes,
> > > > > > sodomies or other assorted activities by any man in Iraq?? 
> He
> > > put
> > > > > > people in shredders in front of the family to keep control.
> AND
> > > it
> > > > > > all happened with no and I mean no opportunity for any
> justice.
> > > We
> > > > > > have a soldier do it and he is in jail. You may not see a
> > > difference
> > > > > > but I do a major one. I am aware that all that stuff wasn't
> > > > > > bothering too many people here but it was making me loose
> sleep
> > > at
> > > > > > night. The terrioist move people, women children men they
> don't
> > > care
> > > > > > into the line of fire and they keep them there. Our troops
> do
> > > the
> > > > > > best they can but it isn't easy. We are not to blame for
> every
> > > death
> > > > > > in Iraq. And just so you know I see far more likeness to
> WWII
> > > than
> > > > > > Vietnam except that there are a bunch of whiners who do not
> > > > > > understand what it means to stand the course.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Bookpeople of Moscow" <Bookpeople at moscow.com>
> > > > > > To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:14 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [Vision2020] tony's worries for american women
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tony you would be more credible if you had any worry or
> regeard
> > > for
> > > > > > the tens of thousands of iraqi women who are dying in iraq
> > > because
> > > > > > of george bush. iraq like vietnam  is a case where the
> american
> > > govt
> > > > > > said we know better than you to another group of people and
> > > we're
> > > > > > going to make you do it our way. forget you fascination with
> > > bill
> > > > > > clinton. its time to move on to reality. its 2006 not
> > > 1996.george
> > > > > > bush is president and there is no credibility to the us govt
> > > either
> > > > > > at home or abroad.and its all bush's fault.
> > > > > >
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