[Vision2020] tony's worries for american women

[Tony]

Andreas if I understand you correctly, you believe that one is justified in 
accusing one's country of MASS MURDER when there is at least a 5% chance 
that you could be entirely mistaken.  This, as our good friend Sunil will 
tell you, is what is referred to as "reasonable doubt."  Does your own 
country not deserve at least the same consideration afforded to an accused 
criminal?

-T
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>
To: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] tony's worries for american women


> On 12/16/06, Tony <tonytime at clearwire.net> wrote:
>> Actually Andreas, your source does NOT help.  First, it fails to answer 
>> the
>> question of how many WOMAN have been killed in Iraq as a direct 
>> consequence
>> of our involvement.  Also, it is admittedly an "estimate" and as such 
>> hardly
>> qualifies as solid and reliable information.
>>
>> Do respond when you are capable of being more rigorous.
>
> T. --
>
> It can be said with 95% certainty that it falls somewhere between
> 400,000 and 900,000. Deaths were very heavily concentrated amongst
> males, 15-44; however, eyeballing the graphs in the study, it appears
> as though between 12-18% of the deaths have been amongst females,
> which puts the number of female deaths (assuming 15%) between 60,000
> and 120,000. Taking the Iraqi government's own lowball estimate of
> civilian deaths, which hovers around 120,000, last I saw, and assuming
> the same proportions, that still means that 18,000 women have died due
> to this useless war.
>
> Again, if the US military deigned to collect this information, I
> suspect that we might have some competing statistics on civilian death
> tolls. However, they neither collect nor release this information;
> they just occasionally produce "estimates" with no more empirical
> evidence than "what Don Rumsfeld thinks this month".
>
> -- ACS
>
>