[Vision2020] Reply to Metzler & Mix on imprecatory prayer
taro_tanaka at hotmail.com
Sun Dec 17 02:45:02 PST 2006
Keely, perhaps I can help clarify this point for you. The Book of Revelation
is vey revealing indeed in this respect. Consider:
1) Jesus says twice in this book that He HATES the Nicoliatans.
2) The book reveals to us a worship scene in Heaven, taking place in the
immediate presence of God. There "I saw under the altar the souls of them
that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
and they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true,
dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?"
Does that sound to you like an imprecatory prayer? It does to me. In the one
place where the Greek scriptures show us by far the most detailed
description of worship, imprecatory prayer is part of that worship. The
prayer is offered up by human beings -- the disembodied souls of martyrs, to
be sure, but they are no omniscient than we are -- and they are calling for
God's vengeance upon certain evil men who have persecuted Christ's church.
Moreover, later we see God responding to this imprecatory prayer and doing
exactly what was requested of Him: ". . . Rejoice over [Babylon], thou
heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into
the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown
down, and shall be found no more at all . . . And in her was found the blood
of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. And
after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying,
Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our
God: for true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great
whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged
the blood of his servants at her hand. And again they said, Alleluia . . .
And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his
servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great. And I heard as it were
the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the
voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent
So there we have it: imprecatory prayer offered by people, and answered by
God, in the very model of Christian worship given to us by the Greek
scriptures. And it is a model for us, because Jesus Himself taught us, "Thy
will be done in earth, as it is in Heaven." Worship is the Christian's
warfare, and imprecatory prayers are part of our arsenal. If that causes you
to stumble as a Christian, I shall be praying for God to work in your heart
with His Holy Spirit so that you will be able to mature to accept the
entirety of His truth.
And please remember, I have not forgotten the parts of the Bible that say
things like "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them
that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute
you" and "Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not," etc. But we
need to come to an understanding of the Bible that is able to simultaneously
comprehend the God-given reality of warfare through imprecatory prayer on
the one hand, and praying for he salvation of enemies on the other. When
properly understood, these two things are not mutually exclusive or
contradictory. Not in the least.
-- Princess Sushitushi
"keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
>RE: Your last paragraph
>Nope. Not clear at all.
>(by His grace, a follower of the Prince of Peace)
>From: "Taro Tanaka" <taro_tanaka at hotmail.com>
>I hope and pray that it is clear the Bible not only
>allows but demands the right use of imprecatory prayer.
>-- Princess Sushitushi
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