[Vision2020] Most Americans out of step with Sue

[Tony]

Pat, Sue is correct about repeating Vietnam, but not in the way she thinks. 
We are in the process of abandoning another group of people we made a 
commitment to.  A group of people who actually believed we meant what we 
said.  These people did not count on the American left and it's mouthpiece, 
the liberal media, who propagandized the public into a hysterical opposition 
to a just cause.  Over time this subversive chant had its intended effect of 
undermining the will of Americans and emboldening the enemy.  The result 
then was the inhuman slaughter of millions of south Vietnamese and 
Cambodians.  The result the libs will achieve shortly in Iraq will be the 
installation of a hostile regime and the subsequent murder of 10s perhaps 
100s of thousands of civilians.  In other words, from the perspective of 
America's liberals, mission accomplished.

Have a good weekend Pat.    -T
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
To: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>; "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Most Americans out of step with Tony


>I would say the American public in its judgment of Bush, is not being
> historically ignorant, but  perceptive in its assessment of the damage he
> has done and continues to refuse to recognize. It is true, of course, that
> war time presidents have been roundly criticized, but often justly so.
> James K. Polk comes to mind and others even more recent than he.  I think
> Pat is correct that we may well be repeating history, but if we are, its
> more closely akin to the history of the Vietnam era than World War II.
>
> Sue Hovey
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
> To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Most Americans out of step with Tony
>
>
>> This is another fine example of the complete lack of knowledge of history
>> people have in the US. Every war time president has been racked over the
>> coals while in office and yet we now know they were great under very
>> difficult circumstances. What I cannot believe is a senator who runs off
>> to
>> Syria thinking he can override the presidents foreign policy and make
>> agreements with other leaders. One wonders if he knows how many people
>> said
>> we could do business with Hitler and tried to make it work. We are going
>> to
>> just repeat history.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Scott Dredge" <sdredge at yahoo.com>
>> To: "viz" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:21 PM
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Most Americans out of step with Tony
>>
>>
>> "History will record Bush as one of our finest
>> presidents - and his critics as bitter and small
>> people." - Tony Simpson Nov 29, 2006
>>
>> What a surprise that most Americans don't agree with Tony.
>>
>> http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/nation/16237117.htm
>>
>> Americans think history won't be kind to Bush
>>
>> Americans think President Bush will go down in
>> history as the country's worst leader of his era,
>> according to a Gallup poll released Wednesday.
>>
>> Bush rates the worst, with 54 percent saying
>> history will paint him as a poor or below-average
>> president, according to the survey.
>>
>>
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