[Vision2020] Nothing but reasoning?

Nick Gier ngier at uidaho.edu
Wed Dec 13 14:04:49 PST 2006


Greetings:

If the Princess really is Doug Jones, then allow me to quote from the 
Trinity debate that I had with him:

"Most of Nick Gier’s objections are just impositions of his own 
Enlightenment categories. His distinction between rhetoric and substance, 
his evaluation of historical and biblical evidence, his use of logic as if 
it were some neutral ahistorical norm, and his most recent invocations of 
“intelligibility” against the Trinity all set up his personal judgment as 
the supreme court of the universe – a typical Enlightenment 
prejudice."  See full debate at www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/trinity.htm.

No difference between rhetoric and substance?  That sounds like French 
deconstruction, which has no respect for reasoning at all.  If 
Enlightenment standards of rational debate are invalid, then no one can 
make any progress in a debate.

If the Princess is not Doug Jones does she as a Kirker agree with Doug 
Wilson's right hand man?

Nick Gier
Amazing. Ire? The only thing I feel is sadness for your sake, Keely, that
you are only capable of such jaundiced reading. I've been posting nothing
but reasoning, yet you say there is no reasoning, even as you give no reason
except to say that "God's Spirit" has revealed something to you, and
therefore we're all supposed to just accept that. Have you forgotten about
the injunction to "be ready always to give an answer to every man that
asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of
evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in
Christ"?

-- Princess Sushitushi

"Truth is the summit of being; justice is the application of it to human 
affairs."
--Ralph Waldo Emerson

"Abstract truth has no value unless it incarnates in human beings who 
represent it, by proving their readiness to die for it."
  --Mohandas Gandhi

"Modern physics has taught us that the nature of any system cannot be 
discovered by dividing it into its component parts and studying each part 
by itself. . . .We must keep our attention fixed on the whole and on the 
interconnection between the parts. The same is true of our intellectual 
life. It is impossible to make a clear cut between science, religion, and 
art. The whole is never equal simply to the sum of its various parts." 
--Max Planck

Nicholas F. Gier
Professor Emeritus, Department of Philosophy, University of Idaho
1037 Colt Rd., Moscow, ID 83843
http://users.adelphia.net/~nickgier/home.htm
208-882-9212/FAX 885-8950
President, Idaho Federation of Teachers, AFL-CIO
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