[Vision2020] Adulterous Perjurer Swarmed in Hanoi
Tony
tonytime at clearwire.net
Sun Dec 10 11:57:33 PST 2006
As I said J, I am out of the loop regarding the Foley case. My last message
pointed out that I support firm punishment of sexual predators regardless of
race, political affiliation or anything else. You say that Clinton did not
break any "laws of the land." That is simply wrong. He violated his oath
of office and committed perjury.
You say further that we should drop this conversation and agree to disagree.
On that point I must heartily concur.
Have a pleasant holiday. -T
----- Original Message -----
From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Adulterous Perjurer Swarmed in Hanoi
> Em, correct me if I'm wrong - which I am SURE you will - but isn't that
> what
> you are saying happened? Both parties allowed their "leader" to get away
> with doing something wrong with little more than a slap on the wrist?
>
> Again, Foley commited crimes and a sin (against children, no less) -
> Clinton
> did not break any "laws of the land".
>
> J :]
>
> Mayhap this is a fine place to drop this line of conversation.....
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>>To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Adulterous Perjurer Swarmed in Hanoi
>>Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:04:06 -0800
>>
>>If this Foley guy or anyone else attacked children, he should face the
>>stiffest possible sanction that law allows - just the type of punishment
>>that felon Clinton avoided with the help of his enabling party.
>>
>>Peace out. -T
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 6:17 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Adulterous Perjurer Swarmed in Hanoi
>>
>>
>> > Oh, pahleeze! Like you have been living in that cave without a tv or
>>not
>> > seen any news report of this guy.
>> >
>> > You are just so phony! Foley attacked children - a CRIME much more
>> > significant and horrendous than any asked-for-and-received-forgiven sin
>>of
>> > adultery between two ADULTS!
>> >
>> > You are SOOOOO transparent.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > J :]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>> >>To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>> >>CC: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Adulterous Perjurer Swarmed in Hanoi
>> >>Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 18:12:05 -0800
>> >>
>> >>J,
>> >>
>> >>Am not familiar enough with the Foley case to compare it to the Clinton
>> >>case. However, it is ultimately irrelevant as two wrongs hardly make a
>> >>right.
>> >>
>> >>Do have a pleasant weekend. -T
>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>> >>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >>Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 10:20 AM
>> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Adulterous Perjurer Swarmed in Hanoi
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Foley was "cleared" of abusing interns by the committee investigating
>>his
>> >>>and others actions in connection to the harming of many children.
>> >>>"The
>> >>>House ethics committee said Friday that Republican leaders were
>>negligent
>> >>>by
>> >>>not protecting teenage pages from possible improper advances from Rep.
>> >>>Mark
>> >>>Foley but broke no rules in handling the allegations"
>> >>>
>> >>>Like Jay Leno said last night "Just when did it become legal to
>>sexually
>> >>>abuse children?" Foley is/was republican.
>> >>>
>> >>>When might we hear you speakout as loudly about his actions as you
>> >>>have
>> >>>of
>> >>>Clinton? Oh, I forgot - Foley's got a drinking problem that made him
>>do
>> >>>it.
>> >>> Hmmm.....I suppose this means we'll be hearing him claim he has a
>> >>>disability and that is why he can't control his actions.
>> >>>
>> >>>Sounds familiar.
>> >>>
>> >>>J :]
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>> >>>>To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>> >>>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Adulterous Perjurer Swarmed in Hanoi
>> >>>>Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 06:50:03 -0800
>> >>>>
>> >>>>My very dear and close friend Tom -
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Two more things:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>1) The issue was not whether adultery is a criminal or civil
>> >>>>offense.
>> >>>>The
>> >>>>issue was whether it was morally offensive - and if so, why was he
>>given
>> >>>>a
>> >>>>pass by so many woman - the group one would think he would have
>>offended
>> >>>>the
>> >>>>most? Stockholm syndrome perhaps?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>2) Yes, Clinton lied to congress, his own wife AND the American
>>people
>> >>>>who
>> >>>>had placed their trust in him. You acknowledge this, yet are unable
>>to
>> >>>>muster even the slightest condemnation of the (man?)
>> >>>>It has NOT been demonstrated in any legal proceeding or comparable
>> >>>>manner
>> >>>>that Bush has acted similarly. You simply wish to have Clinton's
>> >>>>horrendous
>> >>>>behavior somehow mitigated by comparable conduct on the part of
>>another.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Absolutely fascinating.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>-T
>> >>>>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>> >>>>To: "'Tony'" <tonytime at clearwire.net>; "'J Ford'"
>> >>>><privatejf32 at hotmail.com>;
>> >>>><vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >>>>Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >>>>Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 6:03 AM
>> >>>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Adulterous Perjurer Swarmed in Hanoi
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > ToeKnee, ToeKnee, ToeKnee -
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Two things:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > 1) Adultery is NOT a criminal offense (except in the military).
>>It
>> >>>>is
>> >>>>a
>> >>>> > civil matter that often serves as the foundation for divorce.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > 2) If you recall, and apparently you don't, impeachment
>>proceedings
>> >>>>were
>> >>>> > initiated against President Clinton for lying to Congress and the
>> >>>>American
>> >>>> > people, a crime that President Bush feels he himself cannot be
>> >>>>prosecuted
>> >>>> > for.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Now, if you'll excuse me, CNN is reporting that President Bush is
>> >>>>about
>> >>>>to
>> >>>> > discount the Iraq Study Group Report (more on that later), which
>>you
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>>may
>> >>>> > amuse yourself by reading at:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/iraq_study_group_report.pdf
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Enjoy.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Tom Hansen
>> >>>> > Moscow, Idaho
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > *****************************************************************
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > "Sins can be committed in ignorance, and the fact that they were
>> >>>>committed
>> >>>> > in ignorance doesn't cause the sin to just disappear . . . "
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > - Princess Sushitushi (September 10, 2006)
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > *****************************************************************
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>> >>>>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>> >>>> > On Behalf Of Tony
>> >>>> > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:20 PM
>> >>>> > To: J Ford; vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >>>> > Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >>>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Adulterous Perjurer Swarmed in Hanoi
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > J, your response to my criticism of Bill Clinton's adultery is
>> >>>> > just
>> >>>>plain
>> >>>> > sick. Why are you and Keely so glib about Clinton's decision to
>> >>>> > break
>> >>>>the
>> >>>> > vows he took to his wife before God? Why does his commission of a
>> >>>>felony
>> >>>> > cause you no concern? How would you feel had your husband done
>> >>>> > the
>> >>>>same?
>> >>>> > Have you no grasp of right and wrong?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Fascinating!
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > -T
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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