[Vision2020] Adulterous Perjurer Swarmed in Hanoi
J Ford
privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Sun Dec 10 11:08:54 PST 2006
Em, correct me if I'm wrong - which I am SURE you will - but isn't that what
you are saying happened? Both parties allowed their "leader" to get away
with doing something wrong with little more than a slap on the wrist?
Again, Foley commited crimes and a sin (against children, no less) - Clinton
did not break any "laws of the land".
J :]
Mayhap this is a fine place to drop this line of conversation.....
>From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Adulterous Perjurer Swarmed in Hanoi
>Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:04:06 -0800
>
>If this Foley guy or anyone else attacked children, he should face the
>stiffest possible sanction that law allows - just the type of punishment
>that felon Clinton avoided with the help of his enabling party.
>
>Peace out. -T
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 6:17 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Adulterous Perjurer Swarmed in Hanoi
>
>
> > Oh, pahleeze! Like you have been living in that cave without a tv or
>not
> > seen any news report of this guy.
> >
> > You are just so phony! Foley attacked children - a CRIME much more
> > significant and horrendous than any asked-for-and-received-forgiven sin
>of
> > adultery between two ADULTS!
> >
> > You are SOOOOO transparent.
> >
> >
> >
> > J :]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
> >>To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >>CC: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Adulterous Perjurer Swarmed in Hanoi
> >>Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 18:12:05 -0800
> >>
> >>J,
> >>
> >>Am not familiar enough with the Foley case to compare it to the Clinton
> >>case. However, it is ultimately irrelevant as two wrongs hardly make a
> >>right.
> >>
> >>Do have a pleasant weekend. -T
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 10:20 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Adulterous Perjurer Swarmed in Hanoi
> >>
> >>
> >>>Foley was "cleared" of abusing interns by the committee investigating
>his
> >>>and others actions in connection to the harming of many children. "The
> >>>House ethics committee said Friday that Republican leaders were
>negligent
> >>>by
> >>>not protecting teenage pages from possible improper advances from Rep.
> >>>Mark
> >>>Foley but broke no rules in handling the allegations"
> >>>
> >>>Like Jay Leno said last night "Just when did it become legal to
>sexually
> >>>abuse children?" Foley is/was republican.
> >>>
> >>>When might we hear you speakout as loudly about his actions as you have
> >>>of
> >>>Clinton? Oh, I forgot - Foley's got a drinking problem that made him
>do
> >>>it.
> >>> Hmmm.....I suppose this means we'll be hearing him claim he has a
> >>>disability and that is why he can't control his actions.
> >>>
> >>>Sounds familiar.
> >>>
> >>>J :]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
> >>>>To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> >>>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Adulterous Perjurer Swarmed in Hanoi
> >>>>Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 06:50:03 -0800
> >>>>
> >>>>My very dear and close friend Tom -
> >>>>
> >>>>Two more things:
> >>>>
> >>>>1) The issue was not whether adultery is a criminal or civil offense.
> >>>>The
> >>>>issue was whether it was morally offensive - and if so, why was he
>given
> >>>>a
> >>>>pass by so many woman - the group one would think he would have
>offended
> >>>>the
> >>>>most? Stockholm syndrome perhaps?
> >>>>
> >>>>2) Yes, Clinton lied to congress, his own wife AND the American
>people
> >>>>who
> >>>>had placed their trust in him. You acknowledge this, yet are unable
>to
> >>>>muster even the slightest condemnation of the (man?)
> >>>>It has NOT been demonstrated in any legal proceeding or comparable
> >>>>manner
> >>>>that Bush has acted similarly. You simply wish to have Clinton's
> >>>>horrendous
> >>>>behavior somehow mitigated by comparable conduct on the part of
>another.
> >>>>
> >>>>Absolutely fascinating.
> >>>>
> >>>>-T
> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> >>>>To: "'Tony'" <tonytime at clearwire.net>; "'J Ford'"
> >>>><privatejf32 at hotmail.com>;
> >>>><vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>>>Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>>>Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 6:03 AM
> >>>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Adulterous Perjurer Swarmed in Hanoi
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> > ToeKnee, ToeKnee, ToeKnee -
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Two things:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > 1) Adultery is NOT a criminal offense (except in the military).
>It
> >>>>is
> >>>>a
> >>>> > civil matter that often serves as the foundation for divorce.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > 2) If you recall, and apparently you don't, impeachment
>proceedings
> >>>>were
> >>>> > initiated against President Clinton for lying to Congress and the
> >>>>American
> >>>> > people, a crime that President Bush feels he himself cannot be
> >>>>prosecuted
> >>>> > for.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Now, if you'll excuse me, CNN is reporting that President Bush is
> >>>>about
> >>>>to
> >>>> > discount the Iraq Study Group Report (more on that later), which
>you
> >>>> > >
> >>>>may
> >>>> > amuse yourself by reading at:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/iraq_study_group_report.pdf
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Enjoy.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Tom Hansen
> >>>> > Moscow, Idaho
> >>>> >
> >>>> > *****************************************************************
> >>>> >
> >>>> > "Sins can be committed in ignorance, and the fact that they were
> >>>>committed
> >>>> > in ignorance doesn't cause the sin to just disappear . . . "
> >>>> >
> >>>> > - Princess Sushitushi (September 10, 2006)
> >>>> >
> >>>> > *****************************************************************
> >>>> >
> >>>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>>> >
> >>>> > From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> >>>>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> >>>> > On Behalf Of Tony
> >>>> > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:20 PM
> >>>> > To: J Ford; vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>>> > Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Adulterous Perjurer Swarmed in Hanoi
> >>>> >
> >>>> > J, your response to my criticism of Bill Clinton's adultery is just
> >>>>plain
> >>>> > sick. Why are you and Keely so glib about Clinton's decision to
> >>>> > break
> >>>>the
> >>>> > vows he took to his wife before God? Why does his commission of a
> >>>>felony
> >>>> > cause you no concern? How would you feel had your husband done the
> >>>>same?
> >>>> > Have you no grasp of right and wrong?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Fascinating!
> >>>> >
> >>>> > -T
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
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