[Vision2020] Metzler: King Solomon Minds?

[keely emerinemix]

The Princess forgets that I have said on this forum that Matthew 18 is a 
passage Christians use to guide behavior between single parties, although 
it's a good framework for addressing publicly broadcast sin as well -- 
certainly the error preached from the podium deserves the gentle, private 
admonishment from a fellow believer if circumstances permit.  My question 
was posed to Sushitushi because of the Kirk's insistence that the strict 
letter of the Word be followed -- and repeats this whenever, it seems, 
someone criticizes Wilson or the elders.  So I find it odd that he can now 
use it to defend speaking against Metzler sans private rebuke.  This easy to 
do, though, while professing allegiance to a pastor who dismisses public 
admonishment with that and "two or three witnesses" passages, effectively 
setting up a conundrum from which he can emerge with his conduct unexamined.

I have no idea why Metzler's family moved to a house across from Doug 
Wilson.  But since Metzler has never suggested that Doug Wilson is likely to 
physically attack him or abduct his children, I assume that the Metzlers 
felt they could somehow live through icky vibes and the willies.

I don't intend to engage with any more debate with someone who lacks the 
backbone to use his real name while spewing vitriol against others who do.  
And speaking of names, Sushitushi and his pals have so much fun with my name 
-- "mixed up," etc. -- that I give thanks anew that I didn't marry someone 
else.   Such fun they have!  I'm just glad to be a part of it.

And yes, I think "Scimitar" should write using his or her real name, too.

keely




From: "Taro Tanaka" <taro_tanaka at hotmail.com>
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Metzler: King Solomon Minds?
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 07:54:47 +0000

As usual, Keely is all mixed up. My comments are interspersed below.

"keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:

 >And might it just be possible that Metzler, having left an organization he
 >finds dangerous and broken allegiance with a man he finds devious, is
 >trying to warn others -- not unlike a man who escapes from the back door 
of
 >a burning building whose front door continues to receive guests?

You forgot to add that Mr. Metzler moved himself and his family to across
the street from a personal enemy that he claims is a dangerous psychopath.
Don't you find that strange? I think that reveals a great deal about Mr.
Metzler. He could be lying, he could have a screw loose, or he could be
lying and have screw loose. But he can't be both telling the truth and
"normal." Normal people don't move themselves and their families to across
the street from an enemy they consider to be a dangerous psychopath.

Then of course there is the problem of what you do with a community where a
large percentage  of the people maintain close relations with a "dangerous
psychopath," or all the Christian ministers around the nation and overseas
who are on good terms with him. If Mr. Metzler is to be trusted, then none
of these other people are to be trusted. Both sides can't both be
trustworthy in their judgment.

 >I'm content to leave [Michael where he is].

No doubt that's easier than being a true friend and telling him what he
needs to hear.

 >By the way, Princess, I trust that a committed Christian such as yourself
 >has admonished Michael according to Matthew 18.

If Mr. Metzler ever sinned against me personally, in a private capacity,
going to him in private would apply. It does not apply to sins that are
literally broadcast publicly. Go back and read the actual text of Matthew 18
if necessary.

-- Princess Sushitushi

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