[Vision2020] Bush, et al. before a Grand Jury

[Tom Hansen]

"The notion that we ought to now go to Baghdad and somehow take control of
the country strikes me as an extremely serious one in terms of what we'd
have to do once we got there. You'd probably have to put some new government
in place. It's not clear what kind of government that would be, how long
you'd have to stay. For the U.S. to get involved militarily in determining
the outcome of the struggle over who's going to govern in Iraq strikes me as
a classic definition of a quagmire." 

- Dick Cheney, 1991
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Cheney_Quagmire.mp3

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

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"Seldom, if ever, has a war ended leaving the victors with such a sense of
uncertainty and fear -- with such a realization that the future is obscure
and that survival is not assured."

- Edward R. Murrow

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-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 3:05 PM
To: Andreas Schou
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bush, et al. before a Grand Jury

Oh Andreas, you are so cynical.  Do you really think that the president was 
just beside himself to start a war?  Even as his father, who he admires 
deeply, fought in a prolonged conflict and surely would have advised against

war if at all possible?  I think you have this silly view of Bush Jr. as 
some kind of starry-eyed sophomore, with no realistic grasp of the adult 
world.  It seems to me that such a picture more accurately describes the 
president's critics.

The record clearly shows to fair minded people that the consensus prior to 
our invasion was that Iraq posed a grave threat to the U.S.  This assessment

was shared by BOTH sides of the isle, your revisionist efforts 
notwithstanding.  You blithely assert that "no one" thought Iraq had either 
nuclear capability OR links to Al Qaeda.  Andreas, are you given to such 
categorical assertions, or are you just having a bad day?  To say that not 
even ONE American had such concerns is ludicrous my friend -- sheer 
revisionist fantasy.

Apparently on a roll, you then blurt that the administration "knew" the Iraq

intel was cooked all along.  Unfortunately for your credibility, you fail to

provide even a single scrap of evidence in support of what thus stands as a 
gratuitous assertion.  You are obviously a bright guy, so I trust you will 
be more thorough in your next missive.

After wading through your thicket of false premises, I am instructed that I 
must conclude that this war was entirely unjustified.  But for reasons which

I have pointed out, I remain unconvinced.   Do try again though.

Best wishes,    -T