[Vision2020] West of Paris
Austin Storm
austinstorm at gmail.com
Thu Aug 24 19:03:23 PDT 2006
How dare you! I *like* Merchant Ivory films. =)
-Austin
On 8/24/06, Carl Westberg <carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I only eat animals that are free range, allowed to check out books at the
> public library, limited to no more than 1 hour of television a day, listen
> to Yanni CD's while discussing philosophy with one another over a pitcher
> of
> Guinness at the Ale House, and, when the time has come, aren't
> slaughtered,
> but rather simply bored to death watching Merchant Ivory films. No guilt
> here, Donovan. Carl Westberg Jr.
>
>
> >From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> >To: David Williams <davidwilliams365 at hotmail.com>,
> privatejf32 at hotmail.com,
> > vision2020 at moscow.com
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:26:47 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >If you guys think treating a brainless bird is bad, you ought to see the
> >way they treat and kill pigs which are more intellectually capable, and
> >anatomically and genetically closer to humans than your pet dog or cat.
> >
> > I don't think you can really think about how your food is made, eat
> and
> >be psychologically healthy. You cannot be thinking poor pig, poor cow,
> >poor bird, poor fish, poor apple, poor bacteria. You have to kill
> >something living in order to live. It is the law of nature, God's
> >decision, not ours. When I eat an animal, I don't think of it as killing
> >another animal, but saving a bunch of ones that animal was going to eat
> >had I let it live. But in all do respect, I think it is best to be on
> the
> >top of the food chain, not the bottom, however, we at some point will
> end
> >up there. Eventually, something is going to eat you.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > _DJA
> >
> >David Williams <davidwilliams365 at hotmail.com> wrote: Jackie asks "why
> >would you take it off your menu?"
> >
> >Because he doesn't have any. Thats called false advertising. If he
> >doesn't
> >have any, he's not going to advertise that he does, giving false
> >impressions
> >to local patrons. Also, for your reference, he's getting it all the way
> >from France, and if you're not up to date on your geography, thats pretty
> >far away. You know, in Europe.
> >
> >
> > >From: "J Ford"
> >
> > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris
> > >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:30:44 -0700
> > >
> > >First of all, it is is not ***Moscow*** showing an interest in
> anything,
> > >especially when 'tis kirkers doing the selling and kirkers doing the
> > >buying.
> > >
> > >Second, "we almost sold out our first night."
> > >
> > >is translated as "we sold a bit of it to our friends and numerous
> family
> > >members and ended up throwing the rest out due to spoilage reasons."
> > >
> > >Third, "The people complaining about foie gras have a point. The way
> the
> > >birds are being stuffed is questionable, and I do believe it's
> important
> >to
> > >treat animals humanely. I will put foie gras on my menu again when I
> find
> >a
> > >producer that doesn't engage in force feeding"
> > >
> > >is translated as "They complain, but so what? Can they prove what they
> > >say?
> > > I will do what I want - its my restaurant."
> > >
> > >Fourth, "This is a group that was looking for something to use against
> my
> > >business and they found something," he said. "While I believe there are
> > >some
> > >valid concerns here, I'm not going to stop serving what people want. I
> >will
> > >put foie gras on my menu again"
> > >
> > >is translated as "THEY are all against me. This is religious
> persecution
> > >and I will not cave - well, ok I am for now, but I WILL BE BACK."
> > >
> > >Geez, why bother taking it off the menu if all you're doing is waiting
> >for
> > >the next shipment and hoping people outside yer church donnae find out
> >you
> > >got it? How disingenuous can you get?
> > >
> > >
> > >J :]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Saundra Lund"
> > > >To: "'Megan Prusynski'" ,
> > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris
> > > >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:55:57 -0700
> > > >
> > > >Hi Megan & Visionaries:
> > > >
> > > >The following article is from today's Daily News and seems to paint a
> > > >slightly different picture. In particular, I take exception with Mr.
> > > >Foucachon's statement, "He wants local activists, who got their hands
> >on
> > >an
> > > >outdated menu earlier this week, to know their threats of protest
> mean
> > > >nothing to him or his staff."
> > > >
> > > >The "outdated" menu came directly from West of Paris' Web site the
> very
> > >day
> > > >I posted my concerns, not from some nefarious source. And, we know
> >from
> > > >Mr.
> > > >Foucachon's comments right here on the Viz that he was aware of the
> > > >inhumanity of the product *before* he included it on West of Paris'
> >menu
> > > >:-(((
> > > >
> > > >Anyway, here's the article:
> > > >
> > > >"Foie gras controversy hits Moscow
> > > >Activists up in arms over delicacy's inclusion on restaurant menu;
> item
> > >has
> > > >since been removed
> > > >
> > > >By Alexis Bacharach Daily News staff writer
> > > >Published: 08-23-2006
> > > >
> > > >Foie gras is no longer available at Moscow's West of Paris, but not
> for
> > >the
> > > >reasons one might think.
> > > >
> > > >Restaurant owner Francis Foucachon sold out of the item his first
> week
> >in
> > > >business.
> > > >
> > > >He wants local activists, who got their hands on an outdated menu
> >earlier
> > > >this week, to know their threats of protest mean nothing to him or
> his
> > > >staff.
> > > >
> > > >"Here is the bottom line," he said. "I ordered a small amount just to
> >see
> > > >if
> > > >there was a demand in Moscow. It was such a huge success, we almost
> >sold
> > > >out
> > > >our first night."
> > > >
> > > >Foie gras, French for fatty liver, is produced through a process of
> > > >force-feeding ducks and geese until their livers become saturated
> with
> > >fat.
> > > >
> > > >Handlers insert tubes down the birds' throats and funnel pounds of
> > >cornmeal
> > > >into their stomachs several times a day.
> > > >
> > > >Megan Prusynski, a local activist with People for the Ethical
> Treatment
> > >of
> > > >Animals and the Humane Society of the United States, said consumption
> >of
> > > >foie gras went down in areas that provided focused education and
> >outreach
> > > >programs.
> > > >
> > > >With that in mind, she's teaming with local and national groups,
> > >including
> > > >Compassion Speaks at Washington State University, to organize
> protests
> >in
> > > >Friendship Square later this month.
> > > >
> > > >"There are still a lot of people out there who don't know what foie
> >gras
> > >is
> > > >or how it's made," she said. "When I heard there was a restaurant in
> > >Moscow
> > > >serving it, I started talking to people about doing some kind of
> >protest
> > >to
> > > >raise people's awareness - maybe get it banned."
> > > >
> > > >More than a dozen countries, including Israel, Germany, the United
> > >Kingdom,
> > > >Austria, the Czech Republic, Finland, Italy, Poland and Denmark, have
> > > >outlawed the French delicacy.
> > > >
> > > >In the United States, lawmakers are proposing bans at the state and
> > > >municipal levels.
> > > >
> > > >The California Legislature passed a phased ban last year on the
> > >production
> > > >and sale of foie gras. Earlier this month, city leaders in Chicago
> >banned
> > > >the controversial item from all menus in the city.
> > > >
> > > >"The people complaining about foie gras have a point," Foucachon
> said.
> > >"The
> > > >way the birds are being stuffed is questionable, and I do believe
> it's
> > > >important to treat animals humanely. I will put foie gras on my menu
> > >again
> > > >when I find a producer that doesn't engage in force feeding."
> > > >
> > > >PETA spokesman Matt Prescott said that's a victory for animal rights,
> > > >because Foucachon will never find what he's looking for.
> > > >
> > > >"There are producers in the industry who say their foie gras is
> >produced
> > > >humanely, but such claims are unsubstantiated," he said.
> >"Investigations
> > >at
> > > >every foie gras farm has uncovered incidents of sick, dead and abused
> > > >animals. We've seen birds with holes in their throats and bloody
> beaks.
> > > >We've seen farms where dead birds were dangling from wires, dripping
> > >blood
> > > >on the live birds."
> > > >
> > > >Video footage and photo galleries on PETA's Web site provide images
> of
> > > >birds
> > > >with gaping wounds, images of blood-soaked cages and buckets full of
> > > >feathered corpses.
> > > >
> > > >"No animal should be subject to torture," Foucachon said. "But these
> > >things
> > > >they're complaining about, I would suggest American chickens are
> >treated
> > > >far
> > > >worse than the ducks and the geese. Why aren't people writing letters
> >and
> > > >staging protests at the grocery stores and restaurants that sell
> > >chicken?"
> > > >
> > > >Why stop there, he asked?
> > > >
> > > >Foucachon suggested protests against restaurants that cook live
> >lobsters.
> > > >
> > > >"This is a group that was looking for something to use against my
> > >business
> > > >and they found something," he said. "While I believe there are some
> >valid
> > > >concerns here, I'm not going to stop serving what people want. I will
> >put
> > > >foie gras on my menu again."
> > > >
> > > >Alexis Bacharach can be reached at (208) 882-5561, ext. 238, or by
> >e-mail
> > > >at
> > > >abacharach at dnews.com "
> > > >________
> > > >
> > > >A Very Disappointed Saundra Lund
> > > >Moscow, ID
> > > >
> > > >The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people
> to
> >do
> > > >nothing.
> > > >- Edmund Burke
> > > >
> > > >***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2006, Saundra
> >Lund.
> > > >Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020
> >forum
> > > >without the express written permission of the author.*****
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> > >[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> > > >On Behalf Of Megan Prusynski
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 11:55 AM
> > > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris
> > > >
> > > >I also wanted to give you all an update on West of Paris and the foie
> > >gras
> > > >issue. Mr. Foucachon has decided to take foie gras off the menu and I
> > >would
> > > >like to congratulate and thank him for making the compassionate
> choice.
> > > >Hopefully his kind actions can be a way to educate people about just
> >what
> > > >goes into foie gras production and how cruel it is. Thanks very much,
> >Mr.
> > > >Foucachon and West of Paris. :)
> > > >
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