[Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!
Matt Decker
mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 23 21:19:32 PDT 2006
Bill,
What? When did I agree with the burning, with a free speech aspect? All I
said was, it was my belief that at the time, I thought the flag was thrown
in the trash and not burned. There is no "crucial" aspect to it period. I
don't agree with it now, nor then.
As a writer for the DL I would hope you would check up on some info before
posting what you believe.
I also find it funny Bill, that I have asked you numerous specifac questions
in the past, which you refuse to answer. Instead of adult like dailogue you
wish to pick and choose your topics, all for a liberal agrenda.
Matt
Matt
>From: "Bill London" <london at moscow.com>
>To: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>, <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>,
> <thansen at moscow.com>, <joekc at adelphia.net>, <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:55:19 -0700
>
>The crucial difference is that the rainbow flag was first stolen, then
>trashed. The issue was not free speech, but robbery.
>BL
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
>To: <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>; <thansen at moscow.com>;
><joekc at adelphia.net>; <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:53 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!
>
>
> > Donovan,
> >
> > Wasn't that flag thrown in the trash can and not burned? I remember the
>flag
> > still in tact when I saw it.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> > >From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> > >To: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>, "'Joe Campbell'"
><joekc at adelphia.net>,
> > > "'Tony Simpson'" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
> > >CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!
> > >Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:53:56 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Tom,
> > >
> > > If someone burns a flag of a country, nation or group of people, I
> > >consider it an act of aggression and/or ill will towards those
>people.
>I
> > >responded that way when several of my senatorial colleagues in ASUI
>burned
> > >the Gay Straight Alliance Flag--as did many others.
> > >
> > > If someone protests against a war or action of the US within the US
>they
> > >can do so without burning a flag, spitting on US Soldiers, or
>destroying
> > >public or private property.
> > >
> > > So yes, I think someone that burns a US Flag should be watched more
> > >carefully, and I think they are people that are disrespecting the
>United
> > >States and all the people in it. I consider an attack on a US Naval
>ROTC
> > >Building an attack on the US--especially one that my Dad was attending
> > >during the 60s.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > _DJA
> > >
> > >Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote: v\:*
> > >{behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:*
> > >{behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
> > > st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Arnold
> > >stated:
> > >
> > > "It is easier to find those that hate and wish real harm to the
> > >United States if you allow them to burn a flag."
> > >
> > > Are you suggesting that all those students and anti-war
>protestors
> > >during Vietnam hated and wished real harm to the United States,
>Arnold?
> > >
> > > Campuses (just to name a few) at:
> > >
> > > University of Virginia
> > >
> > > University of California at Berkeley
> > >
> > > Kent State University
> > >
> > > UNIVERSITY OF IDAHO
> > > (Be careful here, Arnold. My wife attended UI during the late
>60's.
> > >Yes. There were major demonstrations which included (on one occasion
> > >burning a US flag and an attempt to burn down the Navy ROTC building)
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Tom Hansen
> > >
> > > ********************************************
> > >
> > > "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"
> > >
> > > - Thomas Jefferson
> > >
> > > ********************************************
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >---------------------------------
> > >
> > > From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> > >[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
> > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 2:26 PM
> > > To: Joe Campbell; Tony Simpson
> > > Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's
>ass!
> > >
> > >
> > > "I think that the question of whether flag burning is or is not
> > >speech
> > > is not so clear." Joe Campbell
> > >
> > > Isn't it that every American Flag eventually gets burned?
> > >
> > > A flag is speech, that is all it is, how you burn it and for what
> > >reasons I think
> > > speaks volumes.
> > >
> > > It is easier to find those that hate and wish real harm to the
> > > United States if you allow them to burn a flag.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > _DJA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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