[Vision2020] Public Works Meeting

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 16 17:11:08 PDT 2006 

Kit;

Thanks for the pics.

My question to the Mayor is if THESE signs are not working to slow traffic 
down (and they are NOT) why would putting two more up in the same area work? 
  A Stop sign, a signal, a-pedestrian-invoked signal would not only slow the 
drivers down but allow the kids to cross at a more even patterned manner.  
Right now, they can be standing at those corners for over 10 minutes waiting 
for the traffic to notice them and allow them to cross.

As one person pointed out at the Admin Meeting, sometimes the cars can be 
backed up 11 deep or better; another good reason to put lights or signs up - 
keep the traffic moving.

I don't get why this is so hard to understand.



J  :]





>From: Craine Kit <kcraine at verizon.net>
>To: Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting
>Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:21:38 -0700
>
>Here are the photos showing the flashing lights.
>
>Kit Craine
>


><< FlashersMtViewandD.jpg >>


>


><< FlashersMtViewandF.jpg >>


>
>
>On Aug 15, 2006, at 9:00 PM, J Ford wrote:
>
>>What I did not like was/is the Mayor's attitude that the citizens  of 
>>Moscow are too stupid to see a Stop sign much less heed it and  stop.  She 
>>apparently has little appreciation for the intelligence  of all of us that 
>>use that road.  It may, MAY take a time or two  for people to see the Stop 
>>sign but with a campaign of  notifications through the papers, news radio 
>>shows, etc, I believe  it would be a non-issue fairly quickly.  As one 
>>person pointed out,  we all adapted rather well and rather quickly to the 
>>mess on  Washington and on 6th.
>>
>>Given that attitude of hers, why would putting a flashing light and  a 
>>sign saying "School Zone" be any different?  What would make  people 
>>anymore aware and slow down anymore than a Stop sign?
>>
>>J  :]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
>>>To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting
>>>Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:40:00 -0700
>>>
>>>What exasperates me about the city's attitude to the problem at D  street 
>>>and
>>>Mountain View is that apparently those that should have, have not  spent 
>>>much
>>>or anytime observing on weekday mornings and afternoons when  traffic and
>>>children are at their highest.  Should you doubt the problem, when  
>>>school
>>>starts, go and look for a morning or two.
>>>
>>>But J Ford should not be surprised considering the length of time  to put 
>>>a
>>>crosswalk across the Moscow-Pullman Highway near Tri-State.  It  was nice 
>>>to
>>>get a cross walk and paths, but a pedestrian activated crosswalk  
>>>stoplight
>>>on demand would lessen the problem that still exists.
>>>
>>>W.
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>>>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 11:52 PM
>>>Subject: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting
>>>
>>>
>>> >I watched the PW Committee meeting today and wondered just who  the 
>>>City
>>> > Staff thinks they work for.  It certainly did not look like they  were
>>> > working for the safety and/or good will for the citizens.  When the
>>> > discussion turned to a need for a four-way Stop sign on "D" and  Mt. 
>>>View,
>>> > it
>>> > got kinda muddled as to why it was such a question - the safety  of 
>>>the
>>> > children and drivers who use that intersection SHOULD be the  primary
>>> > concern.  But even the Mayor seemed to think that the three or  four 
>>>people
>>> > who spoke up for the Stop sign were off base.  And Walter Steed  had 
>>>some
>>> > interesting notes but even he seemed confused about his stand -  40(+)
>>> > people
>>> > in the space of 45min for one intersection is nothing to ignore  and 
>>>yet he
>>> > thinks it is.
>>> >
>>> > The fact that several people pointed out there are now four/five  
>>>different
>>> > places of congregating children and families in that immediate  area 
>>>should
>>> > dictate the City needs to be cognizant of the safety issue that  
>>>people
>>> > face
>>> > every day at that intersection.  As two people pointed out, the  area 
>>>is
>>> > expanding and more people are moving into the area almost  daily.  All 
>>>this
>>> > does is increase the traffic in and out of the area and it  should 
>>>make
>>> > sense
>>> > to people that that traffic needs to be better controlled.
>>> >
>>> > I would hope the entire City Counsel saw it as the Committee  Members
>>> > seemed
>>> > to feel - the need is there and it would behoove the City to,  for 
>>>once,
>>> > use
>>> > preventative medicine BEFORE we have a child or car flattened.
>>> >
>>> > BTW - did anyone realize that the speed limit on that road is  35mph!?
>>> > Seems
>>> > a might fast to me.  Especially considering there are children  in 
>>>that
>>> > area
>>> > rather heavily during a major part of the year and during the  
>>>daytime.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > J  :]
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