[Vision2020] Public Works Meeting

Wed Aug 16 12:22:48 PDT 2006

I agree this intersection needs a traffic light or stop sign. Some one will get hurt here sooner or later. Prevention is the best policy.

Roger
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From: Tom Ivie the_ivies3 at yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:05:39 -0700
To: Bruce and Jean Livingston jeanlivingston at turbonet.com, Craine Kit kcraine at verizon.net,  Vision 2020 vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting

> The Mayor suggested a pedestrian activated light, which I agree is a good idea.  These are more expensive than a stop sign and usually require funding which takes several years.  We could do a 4 way stop until pedestrian activated lights could be installed, if that is something our leaders would want to do.  
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>   As far as blinking lights go...isn't there one at 6th and Blaine?  But who notices it?  I hit that intersection all the time and someone had to point the light out to me.  
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>   One problem with "school zones" is that drivers assume the caution is during the school months and not during the summer children are also present.
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> Bruce and Jean Livingston <jeanlivingston at turbonet.com> wrote:
>   Frankly, I don't understand why they don't put a traffic light there, set it 
> for blinking yellow much of the day in the Mountainview direction, but run 
> it with actual red and green alternating lights for the high traffic, "kid" 
> times, say 7 a.m. to 9 a.m., and 2 p.m. until 4 or even 6 pm given the "kid 
> use" of the athletic facilities all around that intersection. The traffic 
> back-up on D St. can be significant, and a regimented crossing opportunity 
> that an actual red light on Mountainview would provide is significant.
> 
> Parents would also be much more likely to allow children to walk to school 
> if they had confidence in the safety of their child when crossing 
> Mountainview at D Street.
> 
> Bruce Livingston
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> From: "Craine Kit" 
> To: "Vision 2020" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting
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> > Here are the photos showing the flashing lights.
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> > Kit Craine
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> On Aug 15, 2006, at 9:00 PM, J Ford wrote:
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> > What I did not like was/is the Mayor's attitude that the citizens
> > of Moscow are too stupid to see a Stop sign much less heed it and
> > stop. She apparently has little appreciation for the intelligence
> > of all of us that use that road. It may, MAY take a time or two
> > for people to see the Stop sign but with a campaign of
> > notifications through the papers, news radio shows, etc, I believe
> > it would be a non-issue fairly quickly. As one person pointed out,
> > we all adapted rather well and rather quickly to the mess on
> > Washington and on 6th.
> >
> > Given that attitude of hers, why would putting a flashing light and
> > a sign saying "School Zone" be any different? What would make
> > people anymore aware and slow down anymore than a Stop sign?
> >
> > J :]
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> >> From: "Art Deco" 
> >> To: "Vision 2020" 
> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting
> >> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:40:00 -0700
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> >> What exasperates me about the city's attitude to the problem at D
> >> street and
> >> Mountain View is that apparently those that should have, have not
> >> spent much
> >> or anytime observing on weekday mornings and afternoons when
> >> traffic and
> >> children are at their highest. Should you doubt the problem, when
> >> school
> >> starts, go and look for a morning or two.
> >>
> >> But J Ford should not be surprised considering the length of time
> >> to put a
> >> crosswalk across the Moscow-Pullman Highway near Tri-State. It
> >> was nice to
> >> get a cross walk and paths, but a pedestrian activated crosswalk
> >> stoplight
> >> on demand would lessen the problem that still exists.
> >>
> >> W.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "J Ford" 
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> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 11:52 PM
> >> Subject: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting
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> >> >I watched the PW Committee meeting today and wondered just who
> >> the City
> >> > Staff thinks they work for. It certainly did not look like they
> >> were
> >> > working for the safety and/or good will for the citizens. When the
> >> > discussion turned to a need for a four-way Stop sign on "D" and
> >> Mt. View,
> >> > it
> >> > got kinda muddled as to why it was such a question - the safety
> >> of the
> >> > children and drivers who use that intersection SHOULD be the
> >> primary
> >> > concern. But even the Mayor seemed to think that the three or
> >> four people
> >> > who spoke up for the Stop sign were off base. And Walter Steed
> >> had some
> >> > interesting notes but even he seemed confused about his stand -
> >> 40(+)
> >> > people
> >> > in the space of 45min for one intersection is nothing to ignore
> >> and yet he
> >> > thinks it is.
> >> >
> >> > The fact that several people pointed out there are now four/five
> >> different
> >> > places of congregating children and families in that immediate
> >> area should
> >> > dictate the City needs to be cognizant of the safety issue that
> >> people
> >> > face
> >> > every day at that intersection. As two people pointed out, the
> >> area is
> >> > expanding and more people are moving into the area almost
> >> daily. All this
> >> > does is increase the traffic in and out of the area and it
> >> should make
> >> > sense
> >> > to people that that traffic needs to be better controlled.
> >> >
> >> > I would hope the entire City Counsel saw it as the Committee
> >> Members
> >> > seemed
> >> > to feel - the need is there and it would behoove the City to,
> >> for once,
> >> > use
> >> > preventative medicine BEFORE we have a child or car flattened.
> >> >
> >> > BTW - did anyone realize that the speed limit on that road is
> >> 35mph!?
> >> > Seems
> >> > a might fast to me. Especially considering there are children
> >> in that
> >> > area
> >> > rather heavily during a major part of the year and during the
> >> daytime.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > J :]
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