[Vision2020] Poor Sportsmanship
Steven Basoa
sbasoa at moscow.com
Fri Aug 11 15:58:17 PDT 2006
Now, now, DW. Seattle has at least one other bright, shining moment
in the history of sports: The 1979 Seattle Supersonics, coached by
Lenny Wilkens, won the NBA crown.
SB
On Aug 11, 2006, at 2:58 PM, David Williams wrote:
Flame-O-Deacon,
I believe your assertion was the Philadelphia had "the worst teams in
sports
history". Now was that accurate (think slowly and carefully, maybe a
few
deep breaths)? Quit hiding behind the mediocrity of your city and
its poor
performances. One of the great things about cheering for Seattle is
that
there never has, never is, and never will be any expecation to win
ANYTHING,
from the World Series to the Homerun Derby. Oh, wait a minute. KG
jr. won
it a few years back. Hey, I've got an idea. Maybe you could add
that to
the list of Seattle sports success. It could use a little lengthening,
something besides a hockey team from 1917.
DW
p.s. You mentioned Philly as being dead last out of the 13 cities
each with
4 pro sports teams. Funny, thats the same number of World Series
we've been
to. You could have Nethaniel Ealy's right hand, and still count the
number
of times Seattle has been to the Fall Classic.
> From: "Deacon James" <deaconblues42 at gmail.com>
> To: "David Williams" <davidwilliams365 at hotmail.com>
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Poor Sportsmanship
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:43:38 -0700
>
> Lame-O-Dave,
>
> You're such a big man, comparing your beloved metropolis with a
> second-rate
> west coast city. Next thing you know, you're going to start
> intentionally
> walking the good kid to pitch to the invalid with cancer and
> glasses. Jerk.
>
> Phrilladelphia one of thirteen cities to have each of the four
> major sports
> (MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL), and the last championship came from the 76ers in
> 1983.
> 1983! That's TWENTY-THREE years ago! Ha! Your dump of a town is the
> last of
> the thirteen cities to bring home a championship.
>
> I guess Phrilladelphia isn't zoned for WINNING. The last time they
> had a
> championship parade in Philadelphia was when the founding fathers were
> signing the Declaration of Independence.
>
> Best,
>
> Deacon
>
> P.S. Maybe the Phrillies will win the wild card.
>
> P.P.S. Maybe the moon is made of cheese.
>
> On 8/11/06, David Williams <davidwilliams365 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Deacon,
>>
>> What DO you know of Philadelphia sports history?? You've
>> mentioned it a
>> few
>> times now, and in typical viz style, you've offered no proof. I
>> can do
>> you
>> one better. I know that Philadelphia is NOT the worst sports city in
>> history. Why?? Because Seattle IS. I did a little research to
>> make sure
>> my impression of Seattle sports teams was correct, and boy was it
>> ever. In
>> '95, when Griffey Jr. and co. managed to get to the ALCS, it was
>> termed
>> the
>> "magical season". Now, you know there must be something wrong
>> with an
>> organization which considers a 4-1 series loss to the Cleveland
>> Indians a
>> magical season. The list of Seattle sports success was so thin,
>> they had
>> to
>> list the Seattle Metropolitans winning the Stanley Cup in 1917.
>> Who were
>> the Metropolitans, you ask? My point exactly. Philadelphia on
>> the other
>> hand has had its fair share of sports glory. For you, Deacon,
>> I've listed
>> Philadelphia's illustrious Baseball history. The Phillies have
>> won the
>> World Series six times (1910, 1911, 1913, 1929, 1930, and 1980)
>> and been
>> there 13 times. What about your Mariners, hmm?? Oh, thats right,
>> they
>> have
>> NOTHING, nada, zilch, zero. Care to retract??
>>
>> DW
>>
>>> From: "Deacon James" <deaconblues42 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "David Williams" <davidwilliams365 at hotmail.com>
>>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Poor Sportsmanship
>>> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:31:07 -0700
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> The Phrillie Self-Implosion Machine has about as much of a chance of
>>> winning
>>> the Wild-Card as the Devil Rays have in winning the AL East.
>>>
>>> Must be rough being a fan of the city with the worst sports teams in
>>> history.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>>
>>> Deacon
>>>
>>> On 8/11/06, David Williams <davidwilliams365 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think I'd have to agree with Deacon on this one. The chief
>>>> responsibility
>>>> of any leadoff hitter is to get on base, no matter what. You
>>>> put your
>>>> team
>>>> in a hole by being impatient at the plate, swinging for the fences
>> (unless
>>>> you're Ryan Howard), or, in this case, pandering to a potential
>>>> no-no. This
>>>> applies specially to rubber matches, in which small ball (i.e.
>>>> bunts,
>> sac
>>>> bunts, sac flys, stolen bases, smart base-running) usually
>>>> provides the
>>>> margin for winning or losing. Kudos to Zobrist for his hustle
>>>> and game
>>>> focus, especially on a team with sub-500 record playing in a
>>>> division
>>>> buried
>>>> by the likes of Toronto, Boston and the Yankees. A quick
>>>> disclaimer: I
>>>> might feel a bit different and sympathize more with Scott than I
>> currently
>>>> do if Zobrist did the same things against the Phillies. Not so
>>>> much
>> that
>>>> he
>>>> would've ruined a no-hitter (I've already seen one), but b/c the
>>>> Phil's
>>>> are
>>>> in the wild-card hunt, and they need EVERY win. Apart from 3-game
>> series
>>>> against the Mets, Philadelphia's remaining schedule doesn't
>>>> include one
>>>> team
>>>> with a record currently over .500. GO PHIL'S!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: "Deacon James" <deaconblues42 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Poor Sportsmanship
>>>>> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:59:45 -0700
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott,
>>>>>
>>>>> Suspension? That's taking unwritten rules a bit far, don't you
>>>>> think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Initially, I felt it was cheap as well. However, it was the
>>>>> beginning
>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>> 6th inning in a 1-0 game. A no-hitter through 5 is nothing.
>>>>> Hardly a
>>>> week
>>>>> goes by without a pitcher achieving that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the argument stands if the D-Rays were down by 5 in the
>>>>> 8th;
>> at
>>>>> that
>>>>> point the game would be out of hand. In a one run game just over
>>>>> half-spent,
>>>>> you can't fault Zobrist at all. In my opinion, he was doing
>>>>> whatever
>> he
>>>>> could to get on base, and he ought to be applauded.
>>>>>
>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>
>>>>> Deacon
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/11/06, Scott Dredge <sdredge at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the M's game on Wednesday, Jarrod Washburn was pitching
>> beautifully
>>>> and
>>>>>> had a no-hitter going until the 6th inning when Tampa Bay's Ben
>> Zobrist
>>>>>> lead
>>>>>> off the 6th inning with a bunt single. In my opinion this was
>>>> UNETHICAL
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Zobrist should be suspended for at least one game by the Tampa
>>>>>> Bay
>>>> manager
>>>>>> if not the league commisioner. Alternatively, the M's official
>> scorer
>>>>>> should have initially ruled the play an error on Adrian Beltre in
>> order
>>>> to
>>>>>> keep the no-hitter intact and the scorer could have later changed
>> the
>>>> play
>>>>>> to a hit once the Devil Rays actually produced a legitimate hit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>> http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/
>> recap;_ylt=Ag6F94JwmxUZLdr6UuPHWrUn0bYF?gid=260809112
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Scott
>>>>>>
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