[Vision2020] You Make the Call

Scott Dredge sdredge at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 11 14:35:27 PDT 2006


Deacon writes:
"why is the team's worst hitter batting right after the best?"

Bingo.  If you want to protect the best hitter, have the 2nd best hitting next.  The correct management decision regardless of the follow up hitter would be to the walk the star hitter.

-Scott

----- Original Message ----
From: Deacon James <deaconblues42 at gmail.com>
To: Chris Storhok <cstorhok at co.fairbanks.ak.us>
Cc: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>; Joan Opyr <joanopyr at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 1:43:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] You Make the Call

Chris,

My point is that it was the championship game. I think that they have all season to play like that and I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. However, when it comes to playing in the championship game, I have no problem with giving the slugger a free pass.  

In March, I was listening to a Mariners spring training game and the opposing pitcher intentionally walked Ichiro. That, to me, is stupid, and it made me mad. Regular season -- fine, but not in spring training. The manager needs to see what his pitcher can do. I think this is a similar case.  

And on a side, why is the team's worst hitter batting right after the best? Must have been a pinch hitter/runner...

Take care,

Deacon

On 8/11/06,  Chris Storhok <cstorhok at co.fairbanks.ak.us> wrote:                    Deacon,
  (For some odd reason I did not get your email – probably stuck in the spam filter)
  You are so wrong it stinks, I cannot believe you have such an attitude toward youth sports.  First off you little insinuation that I am some politically correct "give the kids an ice cream cone and make them feel good" freak is way off base.  I am a very competitive person and I coach that way as well.  That being said I also realize that sportsmanship is the most valuable lesson you can give kids this age.    Look at the situation and determine the correct way to play it.  First off the great slugger probably only gets on board 40% of the time anyway (if he was better than that he would be in some competitive league anyway)  Next your pitcher seems to be doing all right anyway, heck he has two outs and only one runner on why make him feel like crap by telling him that he is not good enough to face the best (remember he is just as much as a victim of this situation as the kid who had cancer) and the only way to win is to pitch to the worst kid on the team.  Next, a 9-or
 10 year old slugger in Pony League probably can't hit most of the time past your infielders anyway so position them to field the hit and throw him out at first; have you outfielders in at the range this kid hits most of his fly balls to (they would know that depth by now) and field the fly or hit (followed by a throw to first (that play works well in Pony league)).  If the slugger happens to get a hold of a long shot oh well game over…..but your odds are really low that will happen.  The slugger would have been nervous as well (thus lowering his chances of a clean hit).  This is not the majors, minors, high school league, competitive leagues, or adult league, this is a 9-10 year old kids league.   The kids would have enjoyed the game no matter what the outcome was if it was played with good sportsmanship, sure the Yankees would have griped if the Sox's won but life would have gone on.  Bob Farley missed one of those golden opportunities that the kids dream about,
 striking out the best and winning the championship.  Instead the poor pitcher won his game by striking out the cancer kid, where is the glory in that?????  (Damn, wouldn't it have been nice if the cancer survivor had hit the game winner… there is always next year)
  Chris
   
       
   
   
        
  From: Tom Hansen [mailto:thansen at moscow.com] 
 Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 12:06 PM
 To: 'Deacon James'; Chris Storhok
 Cc: 'Joan Opyr'; 'Moscow Vision 2020'
 Subject: RE: [Vision2020] You Make the Call
  

   
  I would have pitched to the slugger as well.
   
  After all, the entire concept behind youth (especially 10- and 11-year olds) baseball is enjoyment and learning.  If they make new friends along the way, the better.
   
  Teaching kids that life is all about winning corrupts the children and potentially dims what would otherwise be a bright future for a community.
   
  Save the concepts, such as "Losing is not an option" and "Winning isn't everything.  It is the only thing," for Babe Ruth League and high school.  The formative years are just that, formative.  It is more important to see that person next to you as a neighbor, not a competitor in the game of "One Upmanship".
   
  Growing up is a one-time deal.  The "games" will always be there.
   
  Tom Hansen
  Moscow , Idaho
   
    "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"
  
        
  From: Deacon James [mailto:deaconblues42 at gmail.com] 
 Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 12:53 PM
 To: Chris Storhok
 Cc: Tom Hansen; Joan Opyr; Moscow Vision 2020
 Subject: Re: [Vision2020] You Make the Call
  
   
  Chris,
 
 What's the point of having a championship game, then? Why not just slap all the kids on the back at the end of the season and buy them a pile of ice cream cones? That way, no one's a loser, the coach doesn't have to be perceived as a jerk, and, hey, ice cream cones all around. It's a win-win-win situation, don't you think? 
 
 Deacon
    On 8/11/06, Chris Storhok <cstorhok at co.fairbanks.ak.us> wrote:
  Tom,
 This is an easy one A) Pitch to the slugger. Period...
 
 One of the great joys about being a youth sports coach is working with
 the kids and watching them mature before your eyes.  These coaches are
 playing with kids and there is nothing worse than watching coaches 
 manipulate the kids or the rules for a simple win.  These are 9 and 10
 year olds for goodness sake, not high school age kids trying for college
 scholarships.  A vast majority of the kids out there will drop out of 
 organized baseball (and other sports) within the next few years of their
 lives.  PONY league was established nationwide with the goal of putting
 fun back into the game.  This kind of crap happens in Little League all 
 the time and is why Little League is losing players ever year.  We first
 started playing PONY League the year we moved to Fairbanks.  That was
 also the first year of PONY League here because parents were sick and 
 tired of Little League and the competitive pressures on each and every
 team.  The PONY League organization does have a competitive league for
 kids that draw out the better talent and leave the recreation teams
 pretty equal.  Here in Fairbanks, the PONY League has brought back to
 the game hundreds of players who had left the game.  Last year the
 Senior League (13-14 year olds) had only 4 teams, this year they were up
 to 11 teams.  Granted most of these players were not good, but they had 
 a good time and learned a lot about baseball and life.  I can clearly
 see that the Yankees coaches in Utah have forgotten the spirit of
 recreation PONY League, if he wanted to coach that way he should be in
 Little League or a competitive team with the PONY organization.  What a 
 jerk, I know I would have been giving him a hard time as well.  (At
 least the poor kid who struck out to end the game sounds like he will be
 back, good for him)
 
 Chris
 
 
 
 -----Original Message----- 
 From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
 [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hansen
 Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 10:55 AM 
 To: Joan Opyr; 'Moscow  Vision 2020'
 Subject: [Vision2020] You Make the Call
 
 >From this week's "Life of Reilly" column by Rick Reilly of the Sports
 Illustrated -
 
 Once you have completed reading the article, please respond to the 
 one-question survey I have posted at the end.
 
 ---------------------------------------------------------
 
 You make the call
 Is it good baseball strategy or a weak attempt to win?
 By Rick Reilly
 
 This actually happened. Your job is to decide whether it should have.
 
 In a nine- and 10-year-old PONY league championship game in Bountiful,
 Utah,
 the Yankees lead the Red Sox by one run. The Sox are up in the bottom of 
 the
 last inning, two outs, a runner on third. At the plate is the Sox' best
 hitter, a kid named Jordan. On deck is the Sox' worst hitter, a kid
 named
 Romney. He's a scrawny cancer survivor who has to take human growth 
 hormone
 and has a shunt in his brain.
 
 So, you're the coach: Do you intentionally walk the star hitter so you
 can
 face the kid who can barely swing?
 
 Wait! Before you answer.... This is a league where everybody gets to 
 bat,
 there's a four-runs-per-inning max, and no stealing until the ball
 crosses
 the plate. On the other hand, the stands are packed and it is the title
 game.
 
 So ... do you pitch to the star or do you lay it all on the kid who's 
 been
 through hell already?
 
 Yanks coach Bob Farley decided to walk the star.
 
 Parents booed. The umpire, Mike Wright, thought to himself, Low-ball
 move.
 In the stands, Romney's eight-year-old sister cried. "They're picking on 
 Romney!" she said. Romney struck out. The Yanks celebrated. The Sox
 moaned.
 The two coaching staffs nearly brawled.
 
 And Romney? He sobbed himself to sleep that night.
 
 "It made me sick," says Romney's dad, Marlo Oaks. "It's going after the 
 weakest chick in the flock."
 
 Farley and his assistant coach, Shaun Farr, who recommended the walk,
 say
 they didn't know Romney was a cancer survivor. "And even if I had,"
 insists
 Farr, "I'd have done the same thing. It's just good baseball strategy." 
 
 Romney's mom, Elaine, thinks Farr knew. "Romney's cancer was in the
 paper
 when he met with President Bush," she says. That was thanks to the
 Make-A-Wish people. "And [Farr] coached Romney in basketball. I tell all 
 his
 coaches about his condition."
 
 She has to. Because of his radiation treatments, Romney's body may not
 produce enough of a stress-responding hormone if he is seriously
 injured, so
 he has to quickly get a cortisone shot or it could be life-threatening. 
 That's why he wears a helmet even in centerfield. Farr didn't notice?
 
 The sports editor for the local Davis Clipper, Ben De Voe, ripped the
 Yankees' decision. "Hopefully these coaches enjoy the trophy on their 
 mantle," De Voe wrote, "right next to their dunce caps."
 
 Well, that turned Bountiful into Rancorful. The town was split -- with
 some
 people calling for De Voe's firing and describing Farr and Farley as 
 "great
 men," while others called the coaches "pathetic human beings." They
 "should
 be tarred and feathered," one man wrote to De Voe. Blogs and letters
 pages
 howled. A state house candidate called it "shameful." 
 
 What the Yankees' coaches did was within the rules. But is it right to
 put
 winning over compassion? For that matter, does a kid who yearns to be
 treated like everybody else want compassion?
 
 "What about the boy who is dyslexic -- should he get special treatment?" 
 Blaine and Kris Smith wrote to the Clipper. "The boy who wears glasses
 --
 should he never be struck out? ... NO! They should all play by the rules
 of
 the game."
 
 The Yankees' coaches insisted that the Sox coach would've done the same 
 thing. "Not only wouldn't I have," says Sox coach Keith Gulbransen, "I
 didn't. When their best hitter came up, I pitched to him. I especially
 wouldn't have done it to Romney."
 
 Farr thinks the Sox coach is a hypocrite. He points out that all coaches 
 put
 their worst fielder in right field and try to steal on the weakest
 catchers.
 "Isn't that strategy?" he asks. "Isn't that trying to win? Do we let the
 kid
 feel like he's a winner by having the whole league play easy on him? 
 This
 isn't the Special Olympics. He's not retarded."
 
 Me? I think what the Yanks did stinks. Strategy is fine against major
 leaguers, but not against a little kid with a tube in his head. Just
 good 
 baseball strategy? This isn't the pros. This is: Everybody bats,
 one-hour
 games. That means it's about fun. Period.
 
 What the Yankees' coaches did was make it about them, not the kids. It
 became their medal to pin on their pecs and show off at their barbecues. 
 And
 if a fragile kid got stomped on the way, well, that's baseball. We see
 it
 all over the country -- the over-caffeinated coach who watches too much
 SportsCenter and needs to win far more than the kids, who will forget 
 about
 it two Dove bars later.
 
 By the way, the next morning, Romney woke up and decided to do something
 about what happened to him.
 
 "I'm going to work on my batting," he told his dad. "Then maybe someday 
 I'll
 be the one they walk."
 
 ---------------------------------------------------------
 
 Simple Survey:
 
 Would you -
 
 A)  Pitch to the slugger (Jordan)
 
 B)  Walk the slugger
 
 Thanks,
 
 Tom Hansen
 Moscow, Idaho
 
 "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of
 arriving
 safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
 sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly 
 used
 up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"
 
 
 
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