[Vision2020] Minimum wage
J Ford
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Tue Aug 8 14:19:00 PDT 2006
"....as I understand it, all parents have already been having sex."
Ya think!?
Em, on second thought - strike that.
J :]
>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>, gweitz at moscow.com,
>ringoshirl at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Minimum wage
>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 13:26:35 -0700 (PDT)
>
>. . ."under Donovan's plan, parents will have tons more free time --
> what with being excused from the kinds of things most of us signed up
>for as
> parents -- and will then form roaming street gangs or start smoking or
> having sex."-- Keely Mix
>
>
> Keely,
>
> I know you are the expert on education being on the school board and
>all. But, as I understand it, all parents have already been having sex.
>
> _DJA
>
>keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote: Of course, under Donovan's
>plan, parents will have tons more free time --
>what with being excused from the kinds of things most of us signed up for
>as
>parents -- and will then form roaming street gangs or start smoking or
>having sex.
>
>keely
>
>
>From: Donovan Arnold
>To: Jerry Weitz , Shirley Ringo ,
> vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Minimum wage
>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 07:55:21 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Jerry,
>
> I agree with you 100% regarding the workforce training. The school
>system
>needs to start kids one year earlier, let them out one year later ,and use
>those two extra years to train youth a job skill, good work ethic, how to
>search for and find a job, keep a job, and advance in that field.
>
> They also need to teach youth how to do taxes, be a responsible member
>of
>the community, build social skills, know first aid and establish healthy
>eating habits, and all about how credit and debit works.
>
> In other words, schools need to teach youth the things they are going
>to
>need to know about living in modern society and doing well. So many things
>you learn in school today seem pointless when you get out and never use
>it.
>You also find yourself hurting in other areas when you are expected to
>know
>how to do something in life but nobody ever taught you.
>
> Thanks for your email.
>
> Best,
>
> _DJA
>
>Jerry Weitz wrote:
> Raising the minimum wage from $5.15 to $6.15 will not help in real
>inflation-adjusted buying power--it is too small of an increase. So let’s
>discuss the fundamentals. As Virginia’s former Democratic governor Mark
>Warner’s track record illustrates, skills training in our high schools
>would help increase wages for Idaho’s workforce and encourage more jobs.
>With the push for community colleges in the urban areas of Idaho, I
>believe
>that our local high schools could become the rural equivalent of community
>college. This would cost money and would require a willingness to change
>the current high school structure.
>
> The state legislature’s current focus on shifting school funding from
>property taxes to the sales tax (the current maintenance and operations
>debate) misses the point. Instead of focusing on ways to shift funds, I
>would urge consideration for increased funding for the
>creation/maintenance
>of skills centers in local high schools. Rather than seeking a balanced
>taxation approach, the Idaho Education Association has promoted a tax
>shift
>to the sales tax, which sends a confusing message.
>
> When one examines France, with a high minimum wage, a large
>under-skilled/inexperienced segment of its youth, guaranteed employment
>contracts, unbending unionization, top down regulations, etc., one
>observes
>high unemployment, a high cost of living, and extreme social unrest.
>
> What works: 1) create/maintain superior education for both the
>college-bound and the non-college-bound, 2) invest in infrastructure, 3)
>be
>friendly to business, 4) be environmentally wise, and 5) do this without
>going deeply into debt, which requires prioritization. Ireland has
>followed the above policies with exceptional success. We should follow
>the
>lead of former governor Warner and Virginia’s Republican legislature and
>make these policies non-partisan. From what I’ve learned, Larry Grant,
>our
>district’s Democratic candidate for Congress, seems to understand this
>non-partisan, middle of the road approach.
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
> At 11:11 AM 8/7/06, Shirley Ringo wrote:
> Visionaries:
>
>
> I cannot resist the urge to weigh in on the minimum wage issue. I
>proposed legislation during the most recent legislative session to raise
>the minimum wage to $6.15. It received very little support from
>Republicans. (Our District 6 Republicans did support it, and
>Representative Trail will co-sponsor the effort with us again next year.)
>
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>
> We plan to try again next year, at an amount above $6.15.
>
>
>
> Without getting into the usual arguments, it’s unacceptable to have a
>minimum wage that leaves those paid at that level in cruel poverty.
>Lawmakers have neglected maintenance on minimum wage levels. In 1968, the
>minimum wage meant something positive to families. In inflation-adjusted
>dollars, it has lost nearly 40% of its value between 1968 and now.
>
>
>
> According to polling, the vast majority of Americans believe the
>minimum
>wage should be higher. I believe eighteen states have a minimum wage
>higher than the $5.15 federal level, which has not been raised since 1997.
>Some of these states have used the initiative process to get results,
>where
>state legislators would not act on it. In some of these states, there has
>been significant help from Republican leaders.
>
>
>
> Many claims of negative consequences do not seem to be true. One of
>the
>claims is that jobs will be lost. In the majority of states that have
>raised the minimum wage, there has in fact been an increase in jobs. (We
>can’t claim the wage increase caused more jobs, but the decrease some
>predicted didn’t happen.) An increase in employee productivity and less
>absenteeism was reported where the pay level increased.
>
>
>
> On the inflation issue, "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
>/>Florida reported after
>raising their minimum wage a very minor increase in some prices. Since a
>relatively small percent of the employed receive minimum wage, one might
>not expect a dramatic increase in prices. (We can expect a “ripple
>effect”
>though, where employers will raise wages to be more competitive.) One
>year
>ago in Idaho, according to the Department of Commerce and Labor, 32,000
>Idahoans received a wage between $5.15 and $6.15 per hour. While Idaho
>State Government employee pay is entirely too low, almost none of them
>receive pay as low as $5.15 per hour. I don’t consider it an undisputed
>fact that there will be significant inflation, but we can certainly study
>the issue in the states that have raised the minimum wage.
>
>
>
> Workers who receive minimum wage live from paycheck to paycheck. (If
>they can make it stretch.) They have no discretionary money. What are
>they to do when their taxes go up? Just more water in the gravy, I guess.
>At the minimum wage, it takes more than one full day to earn the money to
>buy fifteen gallons of gasoline.
>
>
>
> While I continue to study the issue, I am convinced that some of the
>negative consequences of raising the minimum wage are over-stated. I am
>also steadfast in my belief that it is unacceptable to value people and
>families so little that we allow such a low level of compensation for
>their
>efforts and to address their needs.
>
>
>
> Shirley
>
>
>
>
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