[Vision2020] Crazy Train

Sat Apr 22 01:51:05 PDT 2006

Being new to this forum, if in deed you are (sounds too familiar a refrain 
from the CC book of Psalm Sing to me), you may not have seen this has been 
discussed before.

JUST in case...being GAY/homosexual, etc. does NOT mean you are a deviant.  
The examples you site are 99.9% heterosexual deviant behaviors and are 
presented and perpetrated by heterosexual perverts to heterosexual creeps 
that like looking at this type of heterosexual acts.  The GAYS that I know 
are very devoted, quiet, loving, commited, loyal parents and partners and 
have nothing to do with what you parade out here as heterosexual acts of 
deviancy to point out - well, what?  That since there are GAY people in the 
world, there is heterosexual deviancy?

Ok - so that would mean that since there is the colour blue in the world, 
there is rotten purple potatoes in the fields?  Stands to reason that since 
purple potatoes, when they rot, turn blue it is therefore the colour blue 
being in the world causing the problem.  Simple solution would be to get rid 
of the colour blue, right?

Get real.  You don't like being around GAYS, don't go around them.  I highly 
suspect you have friends that you don't even know are GAY.  Thing is, unlike 
you CC'ers, they don't go around wearing their lives on their vests or by 
having the same haircuts.

J  :]

>From: "Ed" <ecooper at turbonet.com>
>To: "Vision2020 Moscow" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Crazy Train
>Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 00:23:53 -0700
>
>As a newcomer to the area and a recent subscriber to this group, I have 
>read each post, concerning the issues that face this community, with 
>enthusiasm and sincere interest. One issue in particular stood out while 
>perusing Joan's entry. She mentioned, "we're facing a constitutional 
>amendment banning same-sex marriage on the November ballot."
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>I thought, wow; what better a time than now for concerned citizens to band 
>together and push this thing through? Why not make amends and ally with the 
>pastor of that church (Christ's Church) to accomplish a common goal? I see 
>a lot of religious talk (in this forum) as well as dialogue regarding the 
>future of the community. Rather than being silent on the issue, we should 
>spread the news. This is the ideal medium to initiate an awareness 
>campaign. Let's save our community form the evils that lurk. Same sex 
>marriage today; tomorrow, they'll be petitioning to marry man's best 
>friend. Funny this subject should arise; I think daily of the way the world 
>is going, especially the United States.
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>Why oppose same sex marriage? The reasons are endless...
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>Daily, we see news stories that deal with acts so perverse and extreme that 
>we are outraged (why would those boys rape the stripper? why does a man 
>kidnap a young girl with the intent of eating her? Why is the world filled 
>with never-before-seen disease?). It seems we ignore and tolerate the 
>deviant behavior that leads up to these acts, so gross until we can no 
>longer ignore them. Nobody asks why underage men are drinking, or why 
>females take their clothes off for these drunken men. Nobody questions the 
>sexual behavior that spreads incurable diseases. We simply witness the end 
>effect and wonder how we have arrived at this horrific juncture. If you 
>don't desire the effect, you must change the cause or root.
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>Equally responsible for the decadence, our nation has turned its back on 
>God-even kicking him out of the schools and courtrooms; we have allowed 
>every conceivable deviant behavior to be normalized and sanitized by 
>extremists in the name of free speech and equal rights. In the extreme, you 
>even hear of churches debating whether or not to allow homosexual clergy 
>and the like....What Bible are they reading?
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>These are merely some of the reasons that it is imperative that we band 
>together on this issue; other, more salient, ones follow.
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>Biology, physiology, reproduction, traditional morality, ethics, mindless 
>denigration of the institution of marriage, God's law (the Bible), nature, 
>pervasive, incurable disease, the family, homosexual supremacy groups, loss 
>of masculinity, female mistreatment, not to mention the empirical 
>social-science evidence about what happens in societies where homosexuality 
>is normalized (Netherlands, Canada, and Spain for example).  If we sit idly 
>by, we are doomed.
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>Was the naming of "Brokeback Mountain" strategic,  symbolic of how our 
>Nation's back/will has been broke by homosexual activists? Well, neither my 
>back nor my will has been broken. I will not sit silently while a vocal 
>minority imposes their disgusting perversions on the rest of the world.
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>Ed
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>In a similar vein....we should refrain from the use of the word "gay" when 
>referring to homosexuals. The innocent word that implies lively and 
>spirited has been hijacked by the far left resulting in some oxymoronic 
>pseudonym.....
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Joan Opyr
>   To: Vision2020 Moscow
>   Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 12:34 PM
>   Subject: [Vision2020] Crazy Train
>
>
>   Dear Visionaries:
>
>   I am done arguing with Donovan.  Perhaps not forever, but certainly for
>   now.  If list members want to talk about water, let's talk about water.
>     We cannot, however, only talk about water.  There's more at stake in
>   the future of Moscow.  Smart growth, dumb growth, and anti-growth;
>   growth that benefits the few, not the many.  There's also urban
>   renewal, development options, the University of Idaho, traffic along
>   the Miracle Mile, and parking in the downtown retail district.  As we
>   get into issues of cultural hegemony and differing visions of what
>   constitutes a healthy and diverse community, we're bound to get into
>   sticky territory.  We're facing a constitutional amendment banning
>   same-sex marriage on the November ballot.  I expect some important and
>   potentially hot debates over that.  And when we do get around to it, I
>   warn you, Pastor You-Know-Who and his You-Know-Church will likely serve
>   as both the tar baby and the briar patch.  If He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named
>   takes as active a role in this political fight as he took in the 1994
>   battle over Proposition One, then it's going to get hot in here.  Might
>   want to open a window.
>
>   That said, I think it's important to recognize that unmoderated chat
>   groups are like the railroad tracks in a Roadrunner cartoon.  We, the
>   list members, are like Wile E. Coyote.  We're on the train, chasing the
>   Roadrunner, when we look out the window and see that we're running out
>   of track.  So, we open up the Acme box and hang out on the engine,
>   laying track before the train just as fast as we can.  What happens?
>   We find ourselves halfway over a chasm; we look down, pause, and drop,
>   right to the bottom of a deep canyon, where we thump to a halt in a
>   cloud of dust.  But we always get back up again.  That's the nature of
>   this list, and it's the nature of every other unmoderated list.
>   Freedom of expression is not freedom from annoyance, and if it were,
>   I'd be bored senseless.  This is a great community, and I'm always
>   interested to hear what most of you have to say.
>
>   It's true that my Bozo Bin is wide and deep, and that I filter out
>   quite a few posters, but I have relatives that I don't like, either.  I
>   don't want to hang out with them, but I don't think they should be
>   tossed from the family.  I still meet up with them once a year at the
>   family reunion, and we watch one another eat fried chicken.  (It's
>   always too greasy.  Best to stick to the deviled eggs.)
>
>   Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
>   www.joanopyr.com
>
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