[Vision2020]Getting to draw the lines and pseudonyms
Donovan Arnold
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 21 03:42:36 PDT 2006
Is this a joke Reverend Keely? I could swear it was. When has Ms. Rogers NOT written an email that was intimidating, threatening or libelous? Hell, she even has a radio show dedicated to it.
Here is a sample of some of her work:
“However, unlike, say, WalMart, once
you join at Doug's God Shop, you cannot simply walk out the door.
You've signed a contract; you've promised to buy from Doug and only
Doug until Kingdom come. You break this contract at your peril. The
consequences of leaving? Character assassination. Firing. Loss of
friends. Loss of income. Loss (in covenantal theology) of your
relationship with God.”
Now, in your church that might be common, but I would be awfully upset and outraged if someone said that about my community church.
Take Care,
_DJA
keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote: If Joan Opyr ever harrassed, intimidated, threatened, or libeled anyone on
this list, or anyone else, I would know, because she is my friend. And
because I hold her in such high regard, such behavior would precipitate my
personal, firm, and timely rebuke. She hasn't. She is sharp of pen and
mighty of word, but she has not crossed those lines.
Fortunately, being a dolt isn't a crime, either, however unpleasant I find
the reading of doltish ramblings and rants . . .
keely
From: Donovan Arnold
To: Joan Opyr , Vision2020 Moscow
Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Getting to draw the lines and pseudonyms
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:39:37 -0700 (PDT)
Joan,
You ask what laws you have violated. OK, here are a few for to start.
Harassment, intimidation, and making threats. As for libelous, how about
looking back at some of your own emails and online publications.
Refusing to accept the reality that J Ford is Jackie Woolf, that is fine,
if you are unable to read her IP address stamps and match numbers that is
believable. Some people refuse to read and believe the dinosaurs were
around 65 million years ago and not ten thousand. But then again, just
because it is published information does not mean it is any good, I mean
didn't somebody publish something you tried to call a book?
Take Care,
_DJA
Joan Opyr wrote:
On Apr 20, 2006, at 9:08 AM, keely emerinemix wrote:
> Donovan:
>
> 1. You name me with other people and say that they and I "violate the
> law." This is a lie; moreover, it's libelous.
>
> 2. If you want to speak of me, speak of me as an individual, not a
> member of some group you find distasteful.
>
> 3. You've crossed a line here, and it's not good. Stop it.
>
> keely
>
Keely is correct, and if she doesn't mind, I'll add a few things to her
list:
1. Name one law that I've violated, Donovan. Any single one. Were you
thinking, perhaps, of Idaho's sodomy laws? If so, then you need to
keep up with recent Supreme Court decisions. You also need a mirror.
2. Like Keely, I am an individual. The term "intolerista" is a
Wilsonism I find distasteful, offensive, and with which I do not
identify. You will not find me calling myself an intolerista, not even
for the sake of amusement. Similarly, I don't expect Dale Courtney or
Doug Farris to embrace the terms "Dougsciple" or "Doug's Thugs." These
terms express my personal disdain for these men, but I wouldn't expect
to read the word "Dougsciple" in the local newspaper. The same should
be true of the neologism "intolerista." Unfortunately, "intolerista"
as been used by the Trib's Jim Fisher and Tom Henderson. Both should
be ashamed. Obviously, it's a been a long time since either attended
an ethics in journalism class.
3. It is not libel to email Don Huskey personally and tell him that you
think he's a peeping Tom. It's rude, crude, stupid and foolish, but
it's not libel. When it becomes libel is when you make that accusation
to a third party, i.e., the hundreds of people on this list. You have
long since crossed the line, Donovan. Step back. Step back now.
Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
www.joanopyr.com
PS: Until or unless J. Ford identifies on this list as Jackie Woolf, I
will assume J. Ford is J. Ford. I will also assume that metk7 is
metk7, that Edna Wilmington is Edna Wilmington, and I will address Faul
Ottomatticks, Stigmatta X and any number of other pseudonymous posters
by whatever nom de plumes they happen to choose. Why not? George
Eliot is still George Eliot, and George Sand still George Sand. For
all we know, Donovan, you might be Deep Throat.
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