[Vision2020] Boarding House information
g. crabtree
jampot at adelphia.net
Sat Apr 15 13:46:18 PDT 2006
Michael, you're right about my jab at hansen. I take no pride in doing it but, I must admit, I do take a guilty pleasure. Poking at such an unfortunate, benighted soul is unquestionably beneath me and I'll do my best in the future to refrain from such "shallow and adolescent" behavior.
As to the rest of your communication, I am only too willing to admit that the law is the law and that it should be enforced uniformly and even handedly. Interpretation and enforcement are outside the scope of my expertise and interest. (Although I do have reservations from a private property/freedom of association perspective) If the folks who fall under the totally objective scrutiny of team Huskey/Opyr/Hansen et. al. can make an argument to continue their actions, great. If they can have the regs modified in their favor, better yet. If not, cease and desist. I find it odd that in the case of this latest flap against your fellow church mates none of the complainants are the neighbors of the designated offenders. That, in fact, the beef comes from several miles outside the city limits. Sounds very much like another case of finding any stick with which to give your former buddy's a whack. All of their fervent protestations to the contrary not withstanding.
The rest of your post seems to be a variation on the old ends justifying the means routine. As yet I have seem no Nazi like behavior from their (CC/NSA) camp. I realize that you have a personnel gripe with "the fuehrer" but from my simplistic and perhaps under informed perspective, this could easily be resolved by walking away. (Sorry, your movie analogy blew right by me. I've not seen it) Your final sentence seems to implore that since there are people who feel put upon the way that they do (people with whom I disagree on practically every point of any substance) I should come around to a more enlightened way of thinking. This is an interesting rhetorical approach, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to wait for a more persuasive argument. If that line of reasoning could be made to work I would have to flap in the breeze created by any group with an agenda. That way lies the darkness of Democrat party politics. Evil unending. Seriously though, thank you for taking the time to try and help me see the light. It's always a pleasure.
Regards,
Gary
From: Michael
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 11:00 AM
Subject: [Vision2020] Boarding House information
Me:
Gary, I can sympathize with this way of stating your concern-and I applaud your tone here, outside of insulting Tom's cognitive abilities. However, your one sided approach to these issues (which I assume you would grant) still perplexes me. For the sake of argument, let's say that you are right here. Wouldn't it still matter whether or not the underlying motivations are guided by legitimate 'discriminatory' thoughts? The extent to which public discrimination is wrong would seem to be at least partly a function of what is motivating the discrimination in the first place. For an intentionally exaggerated example: if you were in Nazi Germany before WWII, would it be wrong to use existing laws or codes to weaken the moral of those Germans affiliated with the anti-Jew sentiments? Wayne is right after all about the de facto legitimacy of current, working law. These codes are not fossils from another age that need to be stricken by the state's Supreme Court are they? If the housing codes are bad and not in the best interest for our public good, or if they are unjust, or infringe on our rights, then we should be actively seeking to change the code, right? I'm confronted with the code as a home builder on a weekly basis, yet I understand both the wisdom within the code (generally speaking) and also the need to apply it indiscriminately, which in practice usually means enforcing it whenever a complaint is raised. Think of another example: What of the use of tax law to finally take down the Cult law firm in the movie 'The Firm'? Was this a wrong use of tax law since it was the only lawful way of exposing more serious sociological and legal problems?
These are tricky questions; but I think they illuminate the problem in taking such a simplistic critical stance. There is a difference between discrimination and 'religious persecution.' The latter only reveals the fact that CC is willing to create any kind of rhetorical smoke available to them. One of the important questions is that IF there is some kind of discrimination, WHY would there be this kind of discrimination? I just don't see how a balanced criticism could get off the ground without carefully seeking to answer this question. If Wilson does hope to turn Main street into New Oxford, which based on my own discussions with him, is a strong likelihood, and if CC is uniquely marked by imposing violent sociological categories, arrogance, and alignment with elitist ideology, then it would seem you should temper your critiques of the 'intolerista's' actions. If all this is true, their ability to continue reasoning with anyone from CC till the cows come home, stay off of Wilson's Blog, and not do any sort of violence should be applauded. It would seem that you owe them some respect. If on the other hand, CC is a humble, innocent protestant lamb being led to the slaughter because of their preaching of Christ crucified, then it seems you should be much more serious about your criticism. In other words, the truthfulness of the underlying concern that would possibly motivate any discrimination, if there be any in the first place, is something that should drastically effect your position and approach in all of this. Yes? No?
Thank you
Michael Metzler
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