[Vision2020] Re: Religion and morality

[Ralph Nielsen]

If we had less religion and more morality we would have fewer  
derelicts, winos, wife beaters and thieves among us, which is just  
what the study demonstrates. Our prisons are filled to overflowing  
with Christians but have very few atheist inmates. The highest  
proportion of divorce, murder, etc., is found in the southeastern  
states, where Christianity is at its strongest.

As for individuals, I just finished reading that George Dubya is now  
hitting the bottle again, even though he was "saved" by none other  
than Billy Graham, in person.

And the other day I received this from a friend over in Great Falls,  
Montana: "And yes, I am still a faithful follower, and have still the  
skepticism which I have from meeting you. A gift most graciously  
acknowledged. I believe, Lord; help mine unbelief. As I embrace both  
and thank you and anyone else present or otherwise for my deliverance  
from fundamentalism."

We met 10 years ago at a regional meeting of The Society of Biblical  
Literature (real Bible scholars) in Great Falls. At that time he was  
was under the influence of both mental and physical drugs. For some  
years now he has been free of both.

Ralph



[Vision2020] Religion and morality

heirdoug at netscape.net heirdoug at netscape.net
Wed Sep 28 10:49:58 PDT 2005

Ralph Nielsen tries to present organized religion as the culprit for  
the ills of society, I have one question.

How many derelicts, winos, wife beaters and thieves have been changed  
from the inside out by anything that he or Nick Gier ever produced,  
written or spoken? Give me the name of just one individual that has  
changed from shipwrecked to saint.

I won’t hold my breath.

lemeno, Doug!