[Vision2020] RE: Homeland Security Dept. Failure!

[Phil Nisbet]

Ted

This particular posting is beneath contempt.  You are seeking not the truth, 
but support for you particular bias.  You lay claim, without support, to 
things you claim to be falsehoods upon my part and yet post only partial 
sourcing and even incorrect sourcing to support your contentions.

The next time you call me a liar in public, old son, I will feel not simply 
miffed, but required to seek that satisfaction required by those of us with 
old roots in Idaho.

In the mean time, I will gather the requested information so that perhaps 
the truth will indeed set you free and then I will expect an appology in 
full from you at that time.

Phil Nisbet


>From: Tbertruss at aol.com
>To: pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] RE: Homeland Security Dept. Failure!
>Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:54:42 EDT
>
>
>Phil et. al.
>
>My only interest is in "Truth."
>
>Yes, I'm an old fashioned sort who thinks this will set me free, despite 
>all
>the mountains of evidence to the contrary...
>
>As I pursue this noble (sic) search, an ongoing endless effort that demands
>questioning every underlying assumption and theory, could you present your
>source or sources for the following facts you presented to Vision2020 in 
>the post
>from 9/06/05 subject headed "Homeland Security Dept. Failure!" I quote from
>below?  And I mean every fact you presented!  After some of the falsehoods 
>you
>presented to this list regarding the Hurricane Katrina preparation, rescue 
>and
>aid effort, perhaps you can pardon my skepticism?
>
>As I queried today in another Vision2020 post addressed to you and the 
>list,
>with the same subject heading as above, why do you appear so insistent that
>the Louisiana National Guard troops and assets that were on foreign soil in 
>Iraq
>could not have saved a single extra life in the week after Katrina hit, a
>life that is now gone?
>
>Ted Moffett
>
>Phil wrote on 9/06/05 responding to my post subject headed "Homeland 
>Security
>Dept. Failure!:"
>
>Actually the shoe seems firmly on the opposite foot.
>
>There are 13,500 members of the Louisiana National Guard.  Of those troops,
>only 3000 are serving in the Middle East.  Only 500 members of the 
>remaining
>10,500 had been called out and put in place by the Louisiana Governor's
>Office prior to the Levee breaking.
>
>As of 3 September, there were only 3000 members of the Louisiana National
>Girad on duty and the Governor had not called up any additional units. 
>Further, as of yesterday, only 3800 Louisiana National Guard troops were on
>active duty, just over half of their forces deployed either to the 
>hurricane
>or Iraq.
>
>So, with ten thousand troops at her command, why was it again that there
>were no more than 500 Guardsman stationed in New Orleans as the flooding
>began?
>
>And considering that all those other states are deploying people into her
>area, why is it that she, the Governor of that state, does not see fit to
>have the rest of her forces out there giving a hand?
>
>If you add in the letters you yourself have put up, in which she promised 
>to
>mobilize the Louisiana State Patrol to insure no breeches of the Peace 
>would
>occur and then look at the fact that she did not send them into New Orleans
>to help keep order, there seems very much to be a partisan divide going on
>that allows her to do nothing while pointing fingers at everybody else.
>
>So, this weekend, when the 3000 Louisiana troops get back home from Iraq,
>the full compliment of 10,500 Guardsman will be there.  Only 3800 of them
>will be actually be on duty, so how exactly is the war in Iraq having an
>impact?
>
>Phil Nisbet

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