[Vision2020] John's Alley

Mon Sep 12 09:53:39 PDT 2005

Carl,

I have several MILES of Hot Wheels track that my kid would probably let
you borrow, or "adopt", if you wish.  Doesn't take up near as much room.

27 time Thundershift 500 Champeen,

DC

-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Carl Westberg
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:47 AM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] John's Alley

At the end of Donovan's post, he suggests, among other laudable ideas, 
adopting a highway.  I would, I really would.  But I just don't have
room 
for one in my apartment.  It's too late to get it enrolled in school,
and 
I'm afraid someone would spit on it.

             Carl Westberg Jr.

>From: Joseph Campbell <josephc at wsu.edu>
>To: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] John's Alley
>Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:31:19 -0700
>
>Mr. Arnold,
>
>I want to correct one point that you make below and scold you on 
>another.
>
>The phrase "Hitler Youth" was not written on the DOOR of NSA, as I 
>falsely reported earlier. It was written in chalk on the SIDEWALK in 
>front of the door. (Wayne Fox corrected me on this point in a previous 
>post. Look it up in the paper if you don't believe me.) This is a huge 
>difference. Given this fact, for instance, the police refused to 
>classify the act as a case of vandalism since, in part, it was not NSA 
>property that was desecrated. Previously I also referred to the writing

>as an act of vandalism, but we should be as careful of our use of that 
>term as the police are.
>
>Also, perhaps others are unable to see through these cheap tricks but 
>this new tactic of the supporters of NSA/Christ Church has got to stop.

>Suggesting that there is some connection between vandalism -- real or 
>imagined -- and criticisms of NSA/Christ Church is nothing but a ploy 
>to get critics to stop voicing their opinions. Initially it was claimed

>by you and others that there was a causal connection between criticisms

>of NSA/CC and vandalism. Once this was shot down it was followed up by 
>the even more absurd suggestion that it is the critics themselves who 
>are doing the vandalism. GIVE ME A BREAK! Vandals rarely take the time 
>to READ the paper let alone write editorials or postings on Vision 
>2020.
>
>You really need to stop this nonsense, Mr. Arnold, for it is a two-way 
>street and it opens the door for similar accusations against yourself. 
>Personally, I would never stoop so low. What I will do is simply quote 
>your words back to you and write "IDIOT-SPEAK" below them anytime you 
>or anyone else makes this absurd suggestion again. Don't say I didn't 
>warn you!
>
>Joe Campbell
>
>On 9/11/05 11:37 PM, "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> 
>wrote:
>
> > "What I'm suggesting is that it's unlikely
> > that Doug Wilson's predominantly middle-aged critics
> > are sneaking out in the dead of night, chalk in hand,
> > to write tasteless jokes about the Hitler Youth on
> > NSA's sidewalk."--Joan Opyr
> >
> > Yes, that would be preposterous! It is obviously young drunk college

> > students that come to the bars, with chalk, so they can later write 
> > Hitler statements on the front door of NSA. And it was just a 
> > coincidence that happened to be their door because the college
> > kids do not keep up on local Moscow politics.
> >
> > What is equally preposterous is that middle aged women would be so 
> > bored, empty, and without purpose that they spend their lives 
> > flooding a server list with emails making crap up about about some 
> > people they disagree with on philosophical and religious grounds.
> >
> > One would think they could spend all this free time
> > doing something productive like walking the dogs at
> > the human shelter, visiting some of the lonely ladies
> > at the assisting living centers, volunteering for the
> > Red Cross to help those in need in the gulf, or
> > adopting a highway.
> >
> >
> > Donovan J Arnold
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Donovan spits:
> >
> > "So what Joan is saying is that John's Alley patrons
> > are the ones
> > responsible for the vandalism to the
> > NuArt (evidence being loud music and close proximity),
> > but because
> > John's Alley was there first, it should be
> > the NuArt that goes. Also, NuArt should feel lucky for being spit on
> > and vandalized based on her experiences
> > in Scotland."
> >
> > No, Jackass, what I am saying is that downtown
> > businesses located near
> > bars should not be surprised when they wake up to find bodily fluids

> > on their doorsteps.  And most aren't.  They scrub said
> > doorsteps and get
> > on about their business.  For heaven's sake, Gambino's
> > have had their
> > windows broken, but Ellen Roskovitch, who is on this
> > list, has never to
> > my knowledge made a federal case about it.  Only NSA
> > and the NuArt feel
> > obliged to elevate ordinary spittle into martyrdom.
> > They do this
> > without logic and without proof -- rather like you.
> >
> > I have no idea if the denizens of John's Alley hock
> > loogies on the
> > NuArt or not, and I don't care.  What I'm suggesting
> > is that it's unlikely
> > that Doug Wilson's predominantly middle-aged critics
> > are sneaking out
> > in the dead of night, chalk in hand, to write
> > tasteless jokes about the
> > Hitler Youth on NSA's sidewalk.  But, just in case,
> > perhaps MPD should
> > arrest me or Rose or Joanne Muneta and dust us for . .
> > . dust?
> >
> > Now, Donovan, let me tell you something else about
> > Glasgow.  No, better
> > yet, when I get home from Olympia, why don't I show
> > you?  Here's how it
> > will work -- should we ever meet in the flesh, I'll
> > ask you the
> > following question:  "Hey, Jimmy, can yer mammy sew?" That's your 
> > cue to turn tail and run like hell because the answer is a
> > powerful head butt
> > accompanied by the words, "Then tell her to stitch
> > this!"  Sound like fun?
> > No?  Well, bugger you then.  I didn't want to touch
> > your nasty old
> > foreheed anyway, you bampot, you.
> >
> > Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
> > www.auntie-establishment.com
> >
> > PS: I don't think you'd last long in Glasgow, Donovan,
> > but you could do
> > with a trip somewhere beyond the limits of your own backyard.  Have 
> > you tried clicking your ruby slippers together three times
> > and wishing
> > yourself in Kansas?  I've got a pair of red Converse
> > high-tops, and I've
> > been wishing you all sorts of places!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Joan Opyr <joanopyr at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Donovan spits:
> >>
> >> "So what Joan is saying is that John's Alley patrons
> >> are the ones responsible for the vandalism to the
> >> NuArt (evidence being loud music and close
> >> proximity), but because John's Alley was there
> >> first, it should be
> >> the NuArt that goes. Also, NuArt should feel lucky
> >> for being spit on and vandalized based on her
> >> experiences
> >> in Scotland."
> >>
> >> No, Jackass, what I am saying is that downtown
> >> businesses located near bars should not be surprised
> >> when they wake up to find bodily fluids on their doorsteps.  And 
> >> most aren't.  They scrub said doorsteps and get on about their 
> >> business.  For heaven's sake, Gambino's have had their windows
> >> broken, but Ellen Roskovitch, who is on this list,
> >> has never to my knowledge made a federal case about
> >> it.  Only NSA and the NuArt feel obliged to elevate
> >> ordinary spittle into martyrdom.  They do this
> >> without logic and without proof -- rather like you.
> >>
> >> I have no idea if the denizens of John's Alley hock loogies on the 
> >> NuArt or not, and I don't care.  What I'm suggesting is that it's 
> >> unlikely that Doug Wilson's predominantly middle-aged critics are
> >> sneaking out in the dead of night, chalk in hand, to
> >> write tasteless jokes about the Hitler Youth on
> >> NSA's sidewalk.  But, just in case, perhaps MPD
> >> should arrest me or Rose or Joanne Muneta and dust
> >> us for . . . dust?
> >>
> >> Now, Donovan, let me tell you something else about Glasgow.  No, 
> >> better yet, when I get home from Olympia, why don't I show you?  
> >> Here's how it will work -- should we ever meet in the flesh, I'll 
> >> ask you the following question:  "Hey, Jimmy, can yer
> >> mammy sew?"  That's your cue to turn tail and run
> >> like hell because the answer is a powerful head butt
> >> accompanied by the words, "Then tell her to stitch
> >> this!"  Sound like fun?  No?  Well, bugger you then.
> >>  I didn't want to touch your nasty old foreheed
> >> anyway, you bampot, you.
> >>
> >> Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment www.auntie-establishment.com
> >>
> >> PS: I don't think you'd last long in Glasgow,
> >> Donovan, but you could do with a trip somewhere
> >> beyond the limits of your own backyard.  Have you
> >> tried clicking your ruby slippers together three
> >> times and wishing yourself in Kansas?  I've got a
> >> pair of red Converse high-tops, and I've been
> >> wishing you all sorts of places!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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