[Vision2020] John's Alley

Mon Sep 12 09:47:11 PDT 2005

At the end of Donovan's post, he suggests, among other laudable ideas, 
adopting a highway.  I would, I really would.  But I just don't have room 
for one in my apartment.  It's too late to get it enrolled in school, and 
I'm afraid someone would spit on it.                                         

             Carl Westberg Jr.

>From: Joseph Campbell <josephc at wsu.edu>
>To: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] John's Alley
>Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:31:19 -0700
>
>Mr. Arnold,
>
>I want to correct one point that you make below and scold you on another.
>
>The phrase "Hitler Youth" was not written on the DOOR of NSA, as I falsely
>reported earlier. It was written in chalk on the SIDEWALK in front of the
>door. (Wayne Fox corrected me on this point in a previous post. Look it up
>in the paper if you don't believe me.) This is a huge difference. Given 
>this
>fact, for instance, the police refused to classify the act as a case of
>vandalism since, in part, it was not NSA property that was desecrated.
>Previously I also referred to the writing as an act of vandalism, but we
>should be as careful of our use of that term as the police are.
>
>Also, perhaps others are unable to see through these cheap tricks but this
>new tactic of the supporters of NSA/Christ Church has got to stop.
>Suggesting that there is some connection between vandalism -- real or
>imagined -- and criticisms of NSA/Christ Church is nothing but a ploy to 
>get
>critics to stop voicing their opinions. Initially it was claimed by you and
>others that there was a causal connection between criticisms of NSA/CC and
>vandalism. Once this was shot down it was followed up by the even more
>absurd suggestion that it is the critics themselves who are doing the
>vandalism. GIVE ME A BREAK! Vandals rarely take the time to READ the paper
>let alone write editorials or postings on Vision 2020.
>
>You really need to stop this nonsense, Mr. Arnold, for it is a two-way
>street and it opens the door for similar accusations against yourself.
>Personally, I would never stoop so low. What I will do is simply quote your
>words back to you and write "IDIOT-SPEAK" below them anytime you or anyone
>else makes this absurd suggestion again. Don't say I didn't warn you!
>
>Joe Campbell
>
>On 9/11/05 11:37 PM, "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > "What I'm suggesting is that it's unlikely
> > that Doug Wilson's predominantly middle-aged critics
> > are sneaking out in the dead of night, chalk in hand,
> > to write tasteless jokes about the Hitler Youth on
> > NSA's sidewalk."--Joan Opyr
> >
> > Yes, that would be preposterous! It is obviously young
> > drunk college students that come to the bars, with
> > chalk, so they can later write Hitler statements on
> > the front door of NSA. And it was just a coincidence
> > that happened to be their door because the college
> > kids do not keep up on local Moscow politics.
> >
> > What is equally preposterous is that middle aged women
> > would be so bored, empty, and without purpose that
> > they spend their lives flooding a server list with
> > emails making crap up about about some people they
> > disagree with on philosophical and religious grounds.
> >
> > One would think they could spend all this free time
> > doing something productive like walking the dogs at
> > the human shelter, visiting some of the lonely ladies
> > at the assisting living centers, volunteering for the
> > Red Cross to help those in need in the gulf, or
> > adopting a highway.
> >
> >
> > Donovan J Arnold
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Donovan spits:
> >
> > "So what Joan is saying is that John's Alley patrons
> > are the ones
> > responsible for the vandalism to the
> > NuArt (evidence being loud music and close proximity),
> > but because
> > John's Alley was there first, it should be
> > the NuArt that goes. Also, NuArt should feel lucky for
> > being spit on
> > and vandalized based on her experiences
> > in Scotland."
> >
> > No, Jackass, what I am saying is that downtown
> > businesses located near
> > bars should not be surprised when they wake up to find
> > bodily fluids on
> > their doorsteps.  And most aren't.  They scrub said
> > doorsteps and get
> > on about their business.  For heaven's sake, Gambino's
> > have had their
> > windows broken, but Ellen Roskovitch, who is on this
> > list, has never to
> > my knowledge made a federal case about it.  Only NSA
> > and the NuArt feel
> > obliged to elevate ordinary spittle into martyrdom.
> > They do this
> > without logic and without proof -- rather like you.
> >
> > I have no idea if the denizens of John's Alley hock
> > loogies on the
> > NuArt or not, and I don't care.  What I'm suggesting
> > is that it's unlikely
> > that Doug Wilson's predominantly middle-aged critics
> > are sneaking out
> > in the dead of night, chalk in hand, to write
> > tasteless jokes about the
> > Hitler Youth on NSA's sidewalk.  But, just in case,
> > perhaps MPD should
> > arrest me or Rose or Joanne Muneta and dust us for . .
> > . dust?
> >
> > Now, Donovan, let me tell you something else about
> > Glasgow.  No, better
> > yet, when I get home from Olympia, why don't I show
> > you?  Here's how it
> > will work -- should we ever meet in the flesh, I'll
> > ask you the
> > following question:  "Hey, Jimmy, can yer mammy sew?"
> > That's your cue to turn
> > tail and run like hell because the answer is a
> > powerful head butt
> > accompanied by the words, "Then tell her to stitch
> > this!"  Sound like fun?
> > No?  Well, bugger you then.  I didn't want to touch
> > your nasty old
> > foreheed anyway, you bampot, you.
> >
> > Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
> > www.auntie-establishment.com
> >
> > PS: I don't think you'd last long in Glasgow, Donovan,
> > but you could do
> > with a trip somewhere beyond the limits of your own
> > backyard.  Have you
> > tried clicking your ruby slippers together three times
> > and wishing
> > yourself in Kansas?  I've got a pair of red Converse
> > high-tops, and I've
> > been wishing you all sorts of places!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Joan Opyr <joanopyr at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Donovan spits:
> >>
> >> "So what Joan is saying is that John's Alley patrons
> >> are the ones responsible for the vandalism to the
> >> NuArt (evidence being loud music and close
> >> proximity), but because John's Alley was there
> >> first, it should be
> >> the NuArt that goes. Also, NuArt should feel lucky
> >> for being spit on and vandalized based on her
> >> experiences
> >> in Scotland."
> >>
> >> No, Jackass, what I am saying is that downtown
> >> businesses located near bars should not be surprised
> >> when they wake up to find bodily fluids on their
> >> doorsteps.  And most aren't.  They scrub said
> >> doorsteps and get on about their business.  For
> >> heaven's sake, Gambino's have had their windows
> >> broken, but Ellen Roskovitch, who is on this list,
> >> has never to my knowledge made a federal case about
> >> it.  Only NSA and the NuArt feel obliged to elevate
> >> ordinary spittle into martyrdom.  They do this
> >> without logic and without proof -- rather like you.
> >>
> >> I have no idea if the denizens of John's Alley hock
> >> loogies on the NuArt or not, and I don't care.  What
> >> I'm suggesting is that it's unlikely that Doug
> >> Wilson's predominantly middle-aged critics are
> >> sneaking out in the dead of night, chalk in hand, to
> >> write tasteless jokes about the Hitler Youth on
> >> NSA's sidewalk.  But, just in case, perhaps MPD
> >> should arrest me or Rose or Joanne Muneta and dust
> >> us for . . . dust?
> >>
> >> Now, Donovan, let me tell you something else about
> >> Glasgow.  No, better yet, when I get home from
> >> Olympia, why don't I show you?  Here's how it will
> >> work -- should we ever meet in the flesh, I'll ask
> >> you the following question:  "Hey, Jimmy, can yer
> >> mammy sew?"  That's your cue to turn tail and run
> >> like hell because the answer is a powerful head butt
> >> accompanied by the words, "Then tell her to stitch
> >> this!"  Sound like fun?  No?  Well, bugger you then.
> >>  I didn't want to touch your nasty old foreheed
> >> anyway, you bampot, you.
> >>
> >> Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
> >> www.auntie-establishment.com
> >>
> >> PS: I don't think you'd last long in Glasgow,
> >> Donovan, but you could do with a trip somewhere
> >> beyond the limits of your own backyard.  Have you
> >> tried clicking your ruby slippers together three
> >> times and wishing yourself in Kansas?  I've got a
> >> pair of red Converse high-tops, and I've been
> >> wishing you all sorts of places!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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