[Spam] RE: [Vision2020] LMT Article on Rape --

Wed Oct 26 11:11:04 PDT 2005

Ignoring that little voice in my head that says "don't even start," I 
nonetheless will say this, Donovan:

While I agree that newspapers sometimes get it wrong -- and yes, I've been 
misquoted, too -- I have a hard time imagining that after reading a story 
like that, normal people would say, "By golly, I bet that poor cop was 
misquoted!  Yes, that must be it -- it's the ONLY LIKELY POSSIBILITY!"  It's 
even harder for me to imagine the following exchange:

Reader to LMT:  Hi, I just read an article that made the cops quoted sound 
like real idiots.  Now, tell me, Mr. Editor -- did they really say that, or 
were you just kidding?

Editor:  No, it's no joke at all.  We're a newspaper, not MAD magazine.

Reader:  So, was the officer's speech so florid or so convoluted that your 
reporter was unable to grasp the simple information stated therein?  Did you 
guys screw up?  Because I know you do that.

Editor:  Damn.  You caught us.  Here are the reporter's notes, and it's 
clear that he really said 70 percent of cases brought to trial didn't result 
in a conviction.  Or something like that, I dunno.  Yep, we really blew it 
but were hoping no one found out.  Thanks for making us aware of it, sir.

Reader (flush with triumph):  See, Keely, Debi and Andreas really ARE stupid 
after all!

Now, Donovan, it no doubt makes you feel better to think that, but that may 
explain why your abundant experience and unparalleled service in UI Student 
Government didn't include a stint in print journalism.   And yet the Fourth 
Estate survives . . . somehow.

keely

From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
To: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>, debismith at moscow.com, 
vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Spam] RE: [Vision2020] LMT Article on Rape --
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 10:32:19 -0700 (PDT)

Many of you seem to be jumping to conclusions here.
How do we know for fact that any police office said
that 70% of rapes reported are false? Because you read
it in the paper? Give me a break!

The Police were probably misquoted, or the words did
not come out correctly, or the reporter misquoted or
paraphrased incorrectly.

95% of the time that I read something outrageous from
a local authority quoted in the paper, it usually
turns out that the people did not say what they paper
said they said, or were taken completely out of
context.

Perhaps the police officer said, 70% of rapes do not
lead in a conviction, so that meant "false", either to
the officer, or the reporter.

I hardly doubt that any trained, experienced police
officer, that is required to attend a sexual
harassment and abuse conference or class every year
would say, or intend to imply that 7 out of 10 women
that report rape are liars, even if they believed that
to be the case.

Just because something is reported in the media, or
printed in black and white, does not make it true,
look at FOX news. Did any of you call and confirm this
information as being accurate?

Donovan J Arnold

--- lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:

 > While the 8% national average for false reports
 > maybe low, 70% is obviously a way too high. The
 > tragedy of articles like this is that there will be
 > more rapes going unreported.
 > -----Original message-----
 > From: debismith at moscow.com
 > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:40:36 -0700
 > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
 > Subject: [Spam] RE: [Vision2020] LMT Article on Rape
 > --
 >
 > > Having just completed the YWCA Week Without
 > Violence and the Clothesline Project at
 > > WSU, I read the article and cried. The Clothesline
 > Project consists of over 600 t-shirts painted
 > > over 14 years. Each shirt is painted by a survivor
 > or supporter of someone who was assaulted,
 > > most speaking of sexual assault. We know many of
 > these women, we know they didn't report
 > > the assault, and we know why they choose to not be
 > re-victimized by the type of troglodites
 > > exhibited by that newspaper story.
 > >
 > > To suggest that 70% of reported rapes are false is
 > completely insane. Why would anyone
 > > report a sexual assault if the police already plan
 > to discount it? It must be true that going to
 > > Lewiston means you move 30 miles down the hill and
 > 30 years into the past...
 > >
 > > These officers desperately need remedial training.
 > I would suggest they be required to come
 > > hang the Clothesline Project, and read the stories
 > of the people they call liars. And they should
 > > be put on non-paid leave until they do.....next
 > year, third week in October.
 > >
 > > Debi Robinson-Smith, YWCA of WSU
 > >
 > >
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