[Vision2020] What Kind of Plagiarist is Nick Gier?

[Tom Hansen]

Speaking of principle -

 

"Plagiarism"

As Discussed in the 2003 - 2005 New Saint Andrews College General Catalog

(pages 44 and 45)

 

"New Saint Andrews expects students to express themselves truthfully and
honestly in all facets of their academic work and personal relations with
the faculty, staff, and students. 

 

Students must do their own work , and their own alone, on all assignments,
exercises, and examinations, oral or written, except where disclosed
properly and fully in citations, footnotes, end notes, bibliographies,
and/or other appropriate forms, and only within the limits allowed by the
instructor and commonly recognized academic standards. 

 

Students must avoid plagiarism, misrepresentation, misappropriation of the
work of others, or any other form of academic dishonesty, whether
intentional or the result of reckless disregard for academic integrity.
Such academic dishonesty may be grounds for disciplinary action by the
instructor and the administration up to and including dismissal from the
College."

 

Doesn't DW instruct some courses at NSA?

 

Hmmm.

 

Tom Hansen

Just Another Intolerista Liberal Elitista Diversity-Cleansing Wacko Nutjob
Loose in the Palouse Doing What Comes Natural

 

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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Doug Jones
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:09 AM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] What Kind of Plagiarist is Nick Gier?

 


Narrowing the Options: What Kind of Plagiarist is Nick Gier?

Now comes the backpeddling and hypocrisy, which is the point of my exercise.
Intolerista double-standards are as shameless as they are hilarious --
obvious to all but themselves.

Well. . . we hear, Nick's plagiarism didn't involve money -- except we
forget he was paid to teach this class at the UofI (Wilson never got
royalties from his booklet).

Oh, Nick's plagiarism wasn't disseminated to anyone -- except UI students
and the whole internet.

Oh, Nick's notes never involve citations, they're just reminders --  except
if you look at his other notes, plenty of citations.

Oh, Nick's plagiarism is petty and trivial --  except we've been told it's a
matter of principle not quantity.

Oh, Nick is a scholar, he always cites the source in the lecture itself --
except that's what Steve Wilkins said, too.

Nick himself says his "lifting" (his word) was just of something small like
a list of Bible books or a single word "alas" -- except  that's not true:
look at the example -- someone else's opening wording, unattributed -- so
now plagiarism doesn't count if it's just a short-short theft from another
author.

Imagine a UofI student saying he "only" lifted one sentence ("and just
ignore my other copying and pasting"). 

Nick's own criterion is to "condemn the use of authors' words without proper
attribution" -- with no limits on length, income, or medium. I'm just asking
Nick to live up to his own vaunted principle. That's not asking too much.
Where is the condemnation? 

Nick now admits "lifting" the passage in question; it wasn't even an editing
mistake. He's ruled out, then, two of the five kinds of plagiarist in his
list. So the question remains: what kind of plagiarist is Nick Gier? 


Doug Jones



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