[Vision2020] Southern Fantasy
Donovan Arnold
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Sun Nov 27 16:35:36 PST 2005
Micheal,
"The land was not as filled with idolatry, hatred, bitterness, disloyalty, adultery, infidelity, dishonor, laziness, paganism, immorality, relativism, general cultural breakdown, statism, impiety, and just about any cultural non-good the western world spent 1500 years enumerating."
Sorry but you will find the overwhelming majority of historians will disagree with this statement. These things have been in full force in every human civilization since recorded history, and probably before.
The only place where these things to do plague human society is in Heaven.
"idolatry, hatred, bitterness, disloyalty, adultery, infidelity, dishonor, laziness, paganism, immorality, relativism, general cultural breakdown, statism, impiety, and just about any cultural non-good" was not invented in the last 150 years in the United States.
If you ever talk to people that are 90+ years of age they will tell you that some things have gotten better, and some things have not, but for the most part, things are better.
Take Care,
Donovan J Arnold
Michael <metzler at moscow.com> wrote: Jim,
Thanks for the note. Idealizing the past is precisely what I intended not to communicate in my short response. I think that both the north and the south had a more respectable culture than the one we live in now. This was merely a weak comparison. It was a time a bit more saturated with fidelity, honor, morality, discipline, respect, love, chastity, beauty, architecture, religion, love of God, etc. The land was not as filled with idolatry, hatred, bitterness, disloyalty, adultery, infidelity, dishonor, laziness, paganism, immorality, relativism, general cultural breakdown, statism, impiety, and just about any cultural non-good the western world spent 1500 years enumerating. That’s all I was referring to.
Half of my country came and destroyed another half of my country, and it is not clear that we are better off because of it.
The North’s propaganda for the war was able to continue since the North won the war. The North was no utopia for blacks and the real primary motivation for the war was not to extend mercy to blacks (says many historical scholars as I understand it). I would certainly call this a more balanced view of the civil war. The years Wilkins has spent researching primary documents certainly puts him in a better position than many of the teachers who had their way with us, including high school teachers, college teaching assistants, and even history professors who’s expertise was not the civil war. I don’t privilege Wilkin’s scholarship; however, I’ve heard enough primary documentation to know the confederate flag is not the same thing as the Nazi swastika.
Michael Metzler
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