[Vision2020] Flag Display Was Disturbing

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Tue Nov 22 23:37:35 PST 2005


Good point!  What would or has been the reaction when the Nazi symbol of 
hate, murder, destruction and genocide is/has been displayed?

Oh, wait - isn't that what the Confederate flag also represents?

J  ;)




>From: "Ellen Roskovich" <gussie443 at hotmail.com>
>To: pkraut at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Flag Display Was Disturbing
>Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:46:57 -0800
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>Did someone say it was illegal?
>
>Some people find the confederate flag offensive and in bad taste.  It is 
>viewed as a symbol that represents ideas that have about as much place in 
>Moscow as does a swastika.
>
>Ellen Roskovich
>
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>From:  "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
>To:  "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject:  Re: [Vision2020] Flag Display Was Disturbing
>Date:  Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:36:36 -0800
> >I did not realize it was illegal to display the confederate flag.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> >To: "'Tom Hansen'" <thansen at moscow.com>; "'Moscow Vision 2020'"
> ><vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:00 PM
> >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Flag Display Was Disturbing
> >
> >
> >And another thing, Visionaires -
> >
> >It should also be noted that the Confederate flag has not only been on
> >display at such events as detailed by members of the Irish music
>band
> >Potatohead, it has also been proudly displayed during a lecture presented 
>by
> >Paul Kimmel at a Moscow Chamber of Commerce Board of Directors Annual
> >Retreat conducted on August 5, 2004.
> >
> >http://www.tomandrodna.com/notonthepalouse/Kimmell/Index.htm
> >
> >Take care,
> >
> >Tom Hansen
> >
> >  "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of 
>arriving
> >safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
> >sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly 
>used
> >up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >
> >From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com 
>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> >On Behalf Of Tom Hansen
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:53 PM
> >To: Moscow
>Vision 2020
> >Subject: [Vision2020] Flag Display Was Disturbing
> >
> > >From today's (November 22, 2005) Moscow-Pullman Daily News with a 
>special
> >thanks to Paul Smith (Palouse), Lisa O'Leary (Moscow), and John Watkinson
> >(Moscow).
> >
> >--------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Flag display was disturbing
> >
> >We are members of a local traditional Irish music band, Potatohead. 
>Though
> >it was never entirely clear whether we were hired by Christ Church or New
> >Saint Andrews College, we performed for dances held by some combination 
>of
> >these organizations for several years in the late 1990s.
> >Twice we were hired to provide music for Fourth of July picnic/dances 
>held
> >in public parks, and these events included people from Christ Church, New
> >Saint Andrews College, and Logos
>School.
> >
> >In every respect, these events were precisely the sort of "social event"
> >discussed by the recent letters to the editor by Nick Gier (Opinion, Oct.
> >20) and Superintendent Tom Garfield of Logos School (Opinion, Nov. 9). In
> >light of this debate, we felt that we must make public our experience at 
>the
> >Fourth of July picnic held in 2000 at Ghormley Park in Moscow.
> >
> >When we arrived at the park, the stage on which we were to play had a 
>huge
> >Confederate battle flag as its backdrop. We insisted that the Confederate
> >flag be removed and received passionate arguments why this flag belonged 
>in
> >this event, from both adults and students. It was not until we gave them 
>the
> >ultimatum they could have either their Confederate flag or live music, 
>but
> >not both, that they agreed to remove the Confederate flag
>from the stage.
> >
> >We resolved never to play for these organizations again, nor have they 
>asked
> >us. Contrary to Garfield's assertion in his letter that the Confederate 
>flag
> >is not displayed in any social occasions by these organizations, this is 
>at
> >least one occasion when this disturbing symbol was prominently displayed 
>and
> >defended.
> >
> >Paul Smith, Palouse
> >
> >Lisa O'Leary, Moscow
> >
> >John Watkinson, Moscow.
> >
> >Two other people also signed this letter.
> >
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Thanks again, Paul, Lisa, and John.
> >
> >Footnote:  The Confederate flag is obsolete and so is the philosophy it
> >represents.  Let's take it down and leave it on Doug Wilson's keyboard 
>where
> >it belongs,
>ok?
> >
> >Take care, Moscow.
> >
> >Tom Hansen
> >Moscow, Idaho
> >
> >"If not us, who?
> >If not now, when?"
> >
> >- Unknown
> >
> >
> >
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