[Vision2020] Joan and the Celtic Goddess (a correction)

[J Ford]

B/c, as Bishop (ruler) of Moscow, he can make things happen!

Definition of Bhishop:  A high-ranking Christian cleric, in modern churches 
usually in charge of a diocese (towns) and in some churches regarded as 
having received the highest ordination (even if it's self ordination) in 
unbroken succession from the apostles.  (Just ask Doug who his "ancestors" 
are.)

I'll take cream with my TEA (sorry - old Irish in me.)

J  ;)




>From: Joan Opyr <joanopyr at earthlink.net>
>To: Vision2020 Moscow <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Joan and the Celtic Goddess (a correction)
>Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:09:30 -0800
>
>Damn.  Those Rush Limbaugh painkillers are getting to me.  I must once 
>again beg 2020's indulgence and correct a few things in my previous post.  
>Blame it on my gallbladder; the damned thing is killing me.  (Not 
>literally, Aaron Rench.  Don't get your hopes up.)
>
>Here goes again:
>
>Aaron Rench, who just doesn't know when to quit, writes:
>
>>>I understand that you're a little jumpy about these things,
>>>
>>>So, Joan, you can have your celtic goddess, and any other Brigid that you 
>>>want, but my point is that there was a Christian Saint Brigid who was 
>>>very hospitable, started a church, looked forward to beer in heaven, and 
>>>as a side note, did live during the lifetime of Saint Patrick (he died 
>>>around 464).
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Aaron
>
>To which J. Ford replied:
>
>>Why do these people always think others are "jumpy" or afraid of them?  
>>And they complain that everyone else in the world is against them!
>>
>>FYI - According to the Catholic Encyclopedia:
>>
>>St. Patrick was an Apostle of Ireland, BORN at Kilpatrick, near Dumbarton, 
>>in Scotland, in the year 387; DIED at Saul, Downpatrick, Ireland, 17 
>>March, 493. (Some sources state he died 17 March, 461.)
>
>
>Thank you, J. Ford.  No, I am not jumpy about these things.  I am just 
>tired of the rank ignorance and smarmy belligerence that masquerades as 
>"Christian Classical Learning" among Aaron and his colleagues.  The Trinity 
>Fest's would-be St. Brigid and all of her alleged hospitality do not 
>correspond with St. Patrick in date.  You need to stop getting your history 
>from tourist websites, Aaron.  The Abbess Brigid was a 12th century figure; 
>by the time she drew her first breath, St. Patrick was a six-hundred 
>year-old legend.  There was no Brigid standing by Patrick's side; that, 
>too, is a myth.  A lovely myth, but a myth nonetheless.  (Just wondering: 
>do you believe that old saw about Patrick driving all the snakes from 
>Ireland?  Do you believe in Bigfoot?)
>
>There were and are many women named Brigid (or one of its variants, like 
>Bridget) in Ireland.  It's an old name in honor of an old goddess.  The 
>Catholic St. Brigid predates the Abbess Brigid who post-dates St. Patrick.  
>Are we clear on this?  The worship of the goddess Brigid was incorporated 
>into the worship of Irish Catholics as an aid to conversion; the early 
>Catholic Church was cleverly syncretic in its approach, hence its success 
>in converting the stubborn folk of England, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, and 
>Scandinavia.  Ever seen a St. Brigid's cross?  Sheaves of reeds in a 
>rectangular shape, a form that dates back to the sheaves of reeds placed on 
>doors in honor of (and perhaps to appease) the goddess Brigid.  Just as 
>striking is Thor's cross -- the ancient, pagan god Thor's hammer with an 
>extra hammer head added to the top.  Simple, easy, and easily accepted by 
>the newly-converted Vikings.
>
>Now, wipe your noses, wee boys, because here's the important question -- 
>what are good protestant lads like yourselves doing arsing about with 
>saints of any kind?  However you slice it, that is bad post-Reformation 
>Christian theology.  Even if your St. Brigid really were the woman you 
>think she is (and she ain't), you would still find that John Calvin and 
>John Knox would hang you from a gibbet for your celebration of her 
>"hospitality."
>
>St. Brigid's feast, my fanny.  Trinity Fest, my fanny!  You have carefully 
>elided my underlying critique, boys, which is that you (meaning Christ 
>Church) have made a fetish of the Trinity, and that is why I say that you 
>are guilty of heresy and idolatry.  Go on now -- let's hear a genuine 
>Reformed Christian defense of your actions/theology re: the trinity.
>
>I double-dog dare you!
>
>Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
>www.joanopyr.com
>
>PS: Mind if I start calling Christ Church the Whore of Babylon?  And how 
>long before Doug Wilson is declared the Bishop of Moscow?  I hope it's 
>soon; then we'll be a real city and not a town.
>PPS: A biscuit to the first person who tells me why Doug's being a bishop 
>will make this town a city.  It will be waiting for you at The One World.
>
>
>
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