[Vision2020] kirk email

[Donovan Arnold]

"In the example I listed in my earlier email (Wilson
> testifying at Moscow city council about nudity
> ordinance), Wilson specifically spoke not as an
> individual, but representing his church (and the
> voters who are church members)."--Bill London

Yes, Bill, exactly like how you spoke as the Chair of
the Vision 2020 Questioning Committee and denounced
certain candidates and openly supported others. 

But again, SHOW us where in any state, federal, or
Moscow City Ordinance a minister cannot testify before
the city council as to there opinion on an issue as a
minister?

Take Care,

-DJA
 

--- Bill London <london at moscow.com> wrote:

> In the example I listed in my earlier email (Wilson
> testifying at Moscow city council about nudity
> ordinance), Wilson specifically spoke not as an
> individual, but representing his church (and the
> voters who are church members).
> And that is just one example of Wilson's political
> agenda in action.  The entire pro-slavery
> lovefest-marriage with the neo-confederates is
> another.
> BL
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Michael 
>   To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
>   Cc: Douglas 
>   Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:52 PM
>   Subject: [Vision2020] kirk email
> 
> 
>   Dale Wrote (see his link):
> 
>   The U.S. Supreme Court held in McDaniel v. Paty
> (1978) that ministers may serve in state
> legislatures and hold public office. If a minister
> may serve in a public office, certainly he may
> testify as an individual before a public office.
> Just because you are a pastor doesn't mean that you
> lose your rights to speak. But that doesn't keep
> zealots from fighting for that result. 
> 
>    
> 
>   Me:
> 
>   I just called Wilson to confirm what I thought his
> position on this is.  Generally speaking (i.e. with
> qualifications regarding abnormal times, etc) Wilson
> is very sympathetic with law not permitting an
> active minister to also hold public office.  And I
> know I don't think a minister should be permitted to
> hold public office while they are actively serving
> as a minister (although Dale's statement of the
> ruling is ambiguous here).  Wilson can testify as an
> individual, and I'd think he could even testify as a
> prophet from God,  but I don't think that MCDaniel
> v. Paty is a good justification for it, although it
> certainly seems to legally justify it.  Separation
> of Church and State is a wonderful fruit of
> Christianity.  
> 
>    
> 
>   Now we can all be friends and start talking about
> sex again. :-)
> 
>    
> 
>   Thanks!
> 
>   Michael Metzler
> 
>    
> 
> 
> 
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