[Vision2020] kirk email

Pat Kraut pkraut at moscow.com
Tue Nov 8 12:40:03 PST 2005


Opps! this was supposed to go to the Vision site and one more time someone
has not done it right.



'Secondly, with CC being the ONLY church in Moscow spouting out political
do's and don'ts, why do you feel it has to be an either/or situation for
CC/Doug?'

You do not know this for truth! Others could be well talking about a lot of
things internally that you know nothing about and the problems of one church
in town affects all of them. Its a slippery slope you are all working on and
other churches have reaason to be upset about the behavior of some in town.
PK


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:06 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] kirk email


First, I am curious - are you comparing CC to being like an organization
such as the Mafia?  So that makes Doug the Godfather?  Was the Godfather
evil or political?  Interesting.

Secondly, with CC being the ONLY church in Moscow spouting out political
do's and don'ts, why do you feel it has to be an either/or situation for
CC/Doug?  And what exactly do you mean by "really going at it"?  Seems to
me, since there are CC members on City Council Committees, members promoting
this or that candidate, Doug spewing his brand of poison from the pulpit
regarding laws concerning certain segments of our population, etc. that CC
is "really going at it" now - in spite of their tax exempt status.  Are you
suggesting that we would see an even more increased effort to have things
run their way?  Laws changed to fit their needs?  People run out of town or
loose their jobs that they don't like?  The overtaking of buildings downtown
be even more obvious and out in the open?

What is more evil - people supporting their community for the betterment and
benefit of the community as a whole OR people claiming they are the only
ones with the truth and the rest of us better start getting in line and
stepping in rhythm?

J  ;)




>From: "Michael" <metzler at moscow.com>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: [Vision2020] kirk email
>Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 11:42:00 -0800
>
>Bill Wrote:
>
>
>
> >What is the appropriate federal law under which Christ Church is
>
> >pursuing its political agenda?
>
>
>
>I've got a curiosity here.  Would you want Christ Church to start paying
>more taxes and then start really going at it?   Or would you prefer we pay
>less taxes and do the best we can at staying out of politics even when
>those
>local politics keep sucking us in?  I'm reminded of Michael in Godfather
>III
>just before he suffered his heart attack. (Just look, here I am talking
>about more local politics instead of the Problem of Evil.)  Or is this a
>false dilemma? As one who thinks Christ Church should stay out of politics,
>I'm interested in your answer.
>
>
>
>Thanks!
>
>Michael Metzler
>


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