[Vision2020] Face It Dale, And Apologize, If You Have The Spine, That Is!

[Carl Westberg]

Dale notes that he's had 6,000,000,0000,000,0047 hits (or something like 
that) on his blog.  Hell, I have that many messages on my answering machine 
when I get home after work.                                                  
                                                                             
                                                                             
                                                                          
Carl Westberg Jr.

>From: tbertruss at aol.com
>To: dmcourtn at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] Face It Dale, And Apologize, If You Have The 
>Spine,That Is!
>Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 21:53:42 -0400
>
>Dale et. al.
>
>So labeling someone you have never met as "paranoid" in bold type on your 
>web site as a response to a Vision2020 post where the individual you 
>labeled as "paranoid" merely posted the contents of an article with no 
>comment whatsoever is a response from you focusing on the "facts" of the 
>issues discussed in the article?
>
>I have debated with you before on V2020 and found that you have a very 
>convenient style of debate.  If someone makes a point that is difficult for 
>you refute, you just ignore it.
>
>Like you have ignored my comments recently on V2020 about your blog 
>statement regarding my "paranoia."  Maybe you responded on your web site, 
>but I don't waste my time monitoring your site.  I want an apology from you 
>on V2020 so all my fellow "Intoleristas" on the list can read it.
>
>Your statement regarding my "paranoia" added nothing whatsoever to a 
>rational fact based discussion of the issues in the article I posted to 
>V2020 that prompted you to post that statement on your web site.
>
>I know you know what "argument ad hominem" is!
>
>Face it, Dale, and apologize on V2020, that is if you have the spine for 
>it!  You decided to insult me personally on your web site utilizing a lame 
>psychological slam implying any concerns I may have over the reliability or 
>potential for tampering of computerized voting systems is just "paranoia."
>
>I don't care how many hits your web site gets.  Since when is popularity a 
>sine qua non for truth or ethics?
>
>Ted Moffett
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dale Courtney <dmcourtn at moscow.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Sent: Thu, 26 May 2005 18:06:23 -0700
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Still Creeped Out
>
>
>Dear Rose,
>
>There were many reasons for my leaving Vision2020 and quoting posters off 
>of Vision2020 vice debating on Vision2020. First, I found this list totally 
>a waste of time. Latah County is a solidly Red county.  Vision2020 posts 
>are nearly across-the-board from Intolerant-Leftists. And non-thinking 
>leftists at that. You can make a factual point and you are vilified as a 
>person as opposed to dealing with the facts.
>
>Example: MSD has the 2nd highest per-pupil spending in the State of Idaho; 
>it has the highest admin costs of any district in Idaho; and its actual 
>student spending is in the bottom forth of the State.
>
>Response: Dale lies.
>
>No one outside of our small company here actually reads Vision2020 
>postings.  So, I've gone elsewhere (www.right-mind.us, 
>www.MoscowEducation.org, etc). The hit-count on Right-Mind is 604,333 since 
>October 2004 .
>
>Google up Vision2020 in Moscow and find how many hits you get. When people 
>Google Moscow, they don't find Vision2020; they find Intolerista quotes on 
>my blog sites.
>
>So, I carry on my statistics; my pretty graphs; and online discussions on 
>my site with whoever wants to engage. And I don't delete their postings. If 
>they say something nasty, it stays (just as Tim Rigsby about his comment 
>about my wife) as do inane comments. Just like Vision2020 -- they hang out 
>there for the world to see.
>
>So, nothing has happened to change me. I'm just quoting Moscow's 
>Intolerista on my blog for the world to see and behold.
>
>Maybe quoting you all just makes me appear nasty?
>
>best,
>Dale
>
>PS -- Am I in violation of your copyright laws by replying to you here? 
>What's the difference between replying and archived on Vision2020 verses on 
>my blog?
>
>
>
>
>From: DonaldH675 at aol.com [mailto:DonaldH675 at aol.com]
>Sent: Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:17
>To: dmcourtn at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Still Creeped Out
>
>
>Dale,
>I don't know the law, but I have a nodding acquaintance with courtesy and 
>respect.  I know you to be capable of being civil, generous, kind, erudite, 
>and Christian.  What happen?
>Rose
>
>"One cannot level one's moral lance at every evil in the universe. There 
>are just too many of them. But you can do something, and the difference 
>between doing something and doing nothing is everything." Daniel Berrigan
>
>
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