[Vision2020] Re: Schizophrenic

[Donovan Arnold]

"Donovan: I thought the reference to Doug and this
illness was most appropriate."--Pat Kraut
 
"our resident schizophrenic"????

You think that is appropriate terminology? Does every
community have a designated schizophrenic Pat? Sorry
Pat, I disagree. I would disagree if someone said our
resident alcoholic, or our resident old person, or
anything of this nature. If someone said, "I think
this person is schizophrenic", that would be
different.

Take Care,

Donovan J Arnold


--- Pat Kraut <pkpkrautomoscowom> wrote:

> Donovan: I thought the reference to Doug and this
> illness was most
> appropriate. He was very delusional and paranoid
> about certain groups and
> the government. His posts and what I know of him
> away from vision 2020 fit
> very well in this diagnosis. Yes, way too many
> people think it is some sort
> of split personality because this was the term many
> years ago but that is
> now called bi-polar. I am well aware of
> Schizophrenia and what it does to
> families and I am also somewhat aware of Doug's
> problems. He was very ill
> and I am sure that his family is struggling. Thanks
> for the lesson.
> PK
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Donovan Arnold"
> <dodonovanjarnold05 at yahoo.com>
> To: <jojoanopyraearthlinket>;
> <vision2020 at momoscowom>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:06 AM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Re: Schizophrenic
> 
> 
> "who was once our resident schizophrenic."--Joan
> OpOpyr> 
> This is the third time in the last few months that I
> have heard the term "schizophrenic" used in a
> derogatory manner.
> 
> Let me explain something to people that do this and
> obviously do not know people struggling with it.
> Schizophrenia is a REAL mental illness. It has
> nothing
> to do with split personality. Nor does it strike
> people because they are bad people. It is caused by
> the slow deterioration of parts of the brain. There
> is
> no cure for it. It is a mental illness that is very
> challenging to those that have it.
> 
> Many thousands of families have to deal with the
> pain
> and mental anguish of watching someone close to them
> get worse and worse and not being able to do
> anything
> about it. It is even worse when you watch it in
> children and young adults.
> 
> I do not care your background, education, or
> experience. When you use the term schizophrenic in a
> derogatory and offense term you are hurting more
> then
> just the person you are targeting and publicly
> humiliating many people with a real disability that
> is
> life threatening and challenging.
> 
> I ask that people to please STOP doing this.
> 
> Take Care,
> 
> Donovan J Arnold
> 
> 
> 
> --- "jojoanopyraearthlinket"
> <jojoanopyraearthlinket>
> wrote:
> 
> > Ladies and Gentlemen of Vision 2020,
> >
> > Those of us who have been on this list for a few
> > years will remember poor Doug StStamblerwho was
> once
> > our resident schizophrenic.  Mr. StStamblerosted
> > ten, twenty, or thirty times per day --
> incoherent,
> > rambling, paranoid conspiracy theories.  He saw
> all;
> > he knew all; he could predict all.  (He was also
> > heavy with the libel and the capitalization.) 
> There
> > was no reasoning with Doug StStamblerand no
> > reasonable conversation was possible either with
> him
> > or around him.  LILIke drunk on a city bus, he
> spent
> > all day every day vomiting on the regular
> commuters.
> >  In short, he was hopelessly disruptive.  Those of
> > us who got the wise idea of adding him to our
> "block
> > sender" lists soon found that Mr. StStamblerad
> > bypassed them by changing his email addresses
> > rapidly and at random.  The question soon arose of
> > what to do: should he barred from Vision 2020? 
> And
> > if so, by whom?
> >
> > In the end, we decided as one (though Mr.
StStambler> > was frankly many) to ignore him.
> >
> > It is now clear that we have not one but two new
> > Doug StStamblersn Vision 2020.  I intend from here
> > on out to ignore them.  When they change their
> email
> > addresses, I'll simply update my block sender
> list.
> > I will not respond to their posts; I will not be
> > provoked.  I can only recommend that my fellow
> > Visionaries do the same.  Don't feed a stray dog
> if
> > you want it to go away.
> >
> > 'Ere long we will again have productive
> > conversations on this list.  As soon as I regain
> my
> > own equilibrium, I intend to be part of them.  In
> > the meantime, I'll reminisce about the time Crazy
> > Charlie barfed into my Aunt Colleen's pocketbook
> on
> > a Capital Area Transit Bus in Raleigh, North
> > Carolina.  Sic transit glgloria
> >
> > Joan OpOpyruntie Establishment
> > wwwwwuntie-establishment >
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