Fw: [Vision2020] The Wilson-Jones Vision of the World

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Tue Mar 29 09:32:17 PST 2005


As a starting point, go back to Robert LaFollete. He was a Progresive Republican and then helped found  the Progressive Party.
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From: "David M. Budge" dave at davebudge.com
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:32:17 -0800
To: Joan Opyr auntiestablishment at hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Fw: [Vision2020] The Wilson-Jones Vision of the World

> Joan.,
> 
> It is true that we have had such discussions.  Gratifying discussion 
> too.  There is a great deal of common ground between progressives and 
> libertarians such as the elimination of corporate welfare, the sale of 
> public resources at below market rates, and privacy issues.  Better we 
> start with the wrestling thing though.  That did work for Jesse 
> Ventura.  We can do that while watching the two party system rust away.
> 
> About your secretary.  My guess is he did send me the memo, so I advise 
> you give him a second chance. My dyslexia interfered with my 
> understanding and was exacerbated by the fact that font was "new times 
> red crayon."  I advise that your entire enterprise switch to "new times 
> sharp red crayon." 
> 
> I'll attempt to read Molly Ivins and Barbara Ehrenreich (again) but 
> that's contingent upon me being able to find enough Pepcid AC in Montana 
> to make it though.  A tough proposition by any measure.
> 
> See you at the belly-rub (AKA the mixer.)
> 
> db
> 
> Joan Opyr wrote:
> 
> > Dave writes:
> >  
> > "Um... er... Um???  I didn't think we had come quite that far.  We're 
> > going to have a hell of time developing a party platform if we begin 
> > on the economic issues.  After all, I really am very libertarian.  
> > Where we can start (where modern political discourse fails) is to 
> > concede that each other's motivations are good.  Which I do.  But 
> > we're going to have to arm wrestle or play mumbly peg over 
> > entitlements.  Which I'm also willing to do."
> >  
> > What?  You didn't get the memo about the Opyr-Budge Progressive 
> > Libertarian Party's official launch on April 3rd, sunset, at the 
> > Golden Gate Bridge?  I'll have to speak very sharply to my secretary 
> > about that.  Unfortunately, he's only five and has already retired for 
> > the night.  But I'll reprimand him sharply when he wakes up tomorrow, 
> > expecting his Frosted Mini-Wheats, his orange juice, and a quiet 
> > half-hour watching Blues Clues, just as if he'd done what he was 
> > supposed to do.  I've got to hire better help.  Know anyone else who 
> > will work for Playdough? 
> >  
> > Anyhow, sorry to puzzle you, Dave.  I was writing in shorthand.  What 
> > I meant to say was that I have mentioned to you in some private 
> > correspondence that I acknowledge some merit in taking a libertarian 
> > approach to some issues, particularly vexing social and/or religious 
> > ones, and that I was under the impression that you and I had begun 
> > some kind of preliminary discussion regarding the disintegration of 
> > the two-party system (or, rather, its lingering shell -- this is a 
> > one-party state in which the nominal Ds and Rs at the top agree to 
> > screw the nominal Ds and Rs at the bottom) and that there was the 
> > possibility of a creative dissonance in which I might concede some 
> > of your points, and you might concede some of mine. 
> >  
> > I did propose to you, did I not, the possibility of a progressive 
> > libertarian dance party mix?  We needn't be of one mind to do a kind 
> > of hip-hop two-step.  I read and enjoy The Economist.  All I ask is 
> > that you read a little Barbara Ehrenreich and Molly Ivins.  I do think 
> > that progressive libertarianism might be possible -- particularly if 
> > it includes wrestling, arm, mud, or WWF.  That could really catch on.  
> > In fact, now that I think about it, wasn't progressive libertarianism 
> > part of Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura's mass appeal?
> >  
> > Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
> > www.auntie-establishment.com <http://www.auntie-establishment.com>
> >  
> > PS: I don't want to be party chair.  You can have that.  I want to 
> > write the manifesto.  In rhyming heroic couplets.    
> >
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