[Vision2020] Trinity

Mike Hall mikehall at moscow.com
Thu Mar 17 20:17:00 PST 2005


Tim,

Thanks for your perspective.

I would issue a personal challenge though.  I dare you to come to Christ
Church this Sunday morning.  I will personally introduce you to Doug Wilson
and you can have a conversation with him.  During the service you will also
get an idea of what makes him tick.  I sincerely believe you will find that
there are a bunch of regular ole good people there on Sunday, and I think
you will find Doug himself to be a decent guy.  If you're up for the
challenge, I will meet you at the back of the Logos gym on A Street after
the service.  I will be wearing a blue blazer, grey pants and a tie.  

Mike 

p.s. - as an aside and to provide more information, Christ Church, contrary
to what some may say, is a Reformed Evangelical church well within the
mainstream of what that tradition has represented for hundreds of years.
What has evolved over the years is the world we live in.  The views of the
Bible are not in vogue anymore, in many parts of America at least.  Hence,
when Pastor Wilson speaks and preaches that which has been proclaimed for
millennia, he is vilified by many.  That's fine.  Doug's a big boy and he
can handle it.  It's quite humorous that some would degenerate into name
calling via terms like "cult" and the like.  Yet those at Christ Church, as
well as many, many folks throughout the Palouse not affiliated with Christ
Church, know that such inflammatory rhetoric is not helpful to public
discussion of issues that are near and dear to all of us.  But that is not
their goal I suppose.  I won't speculate on the felt needs they are
objectifying through their posts, but there are many in this community that
see through their façade.  And whether or not there is agreement or
disagreement, their agenda is clear and it is not dialogue; it is not
community; it is not good will towards all men...and women.  Well, enough
with the side comments.  I hope you will rise to my personal challenge.  I
remember my college days and the questions that were burning in my heart at
that time.  I hope you are still open-minded enough to consider that what
you read on vision 2020 is not all reality...
For more reading on the beliefs of Christ Church, visit
http://www.christkirk.com and click on the "confession" link...here's a
sample...


I believe in God the Father Almighty; Maker of heaven and earth, and in
Jesus Christ, his only begotten Son, our Lord. He was conceived by the Holy
Ghost, and born of the virgin, Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was
crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into Hades. On the third day
He rose again, ascended into Heaven, and sits at the right hand of God the
Father; from thence He will come to judge the living and the dead. I believe
in the Holy Ghost, the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints, the
forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting.
Amen.

-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Timothy Rigsby
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:16 PM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Trinity

According to the Dean of Students office at UI, their mission includes the 
following statements:

a) "Our purpose is to support the academic mission of the University and to
enhance 
the personal growth and civic responsibility of students."

If this is the case then the Dean of Students needs to object to this event
because of
the lack of support for the academic mission of the University, and the idea
that this
event will not support the personal growth OR civic responsibility of
students, 
except the students who protest I guess.

b) "We promote educational and leadership experiences which prepare students
to 
serve their communities and respect the dignity of all persons."

Again, the Dean of Students must object because this event does not promote 
educational and leadership experiences.  This event definitely does not
prepare 
students to serve their community, and obviously does not respect the
dignity of all persons.

"We believe..."
c)  "Students have the right . . . to be treated with equity, honesty, and
respect in
all INTERACTIONS."  DOUG WILSON DOES NOT TREAT MINORITIES, WOMEN, OR PEOPLE
WHO OBJECT TO HIM WITH RESPECT!

d)  "Students are valuable partners in decision-making activities concerning

issues that affect the quality of campus life."  OBVIOUSLY NOT SINCE THIS
WAS SCHEDULED
WITHOUT THE CONSENT OR KNOWLEDGE OF THE STUDENTS!

e) "It is our duty to the people of Idaho to use resources responsibly." IS
THIS 
FESTIVAL USING UI'S RESOURCES WISELY?

Just a few thoughts from a students perspective.

Tim




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