[Vision2020] What in the world?
Art Deco
deco at moscow.com
Wed Mar 16 16:55:29 PST 2005
Saundra wrote:
Indeed, *making money* off hate speech seems to be the antithesis of the UI's mission and is certainly a
HUGE slap in the face to the taxpayers.
Should the insensitivity to taxpayers and minorities by the UI be such a big surprise?
Memories are short! Just last year the Moscow Chamber of Commerce presented the community with two large indignities in which the UI openly and enthusiastically participated:
1. The infamous presentation by Christ Church Cult Member Paul Kimmell to the Moscow Chamber of Commerce Board of Directors advocating that racist/traitor Robert E. Lee be the leader members of the board should emulate. This presentation included much racist/traitorous material including the placing the Confederate and American Flags side by side with the Confederate Flag placed first.
Board members and UI representatives to the chamber Bob Hieronymus (UI Director of Communications and Marketing) and Thomas McCann (UI Kibbie Dome Manager) raised no objection during the presentation and made no public apology afterward. When I emailed McGann about this matter, the one below, and other chamber matters, he requested that I not send him any emails, that he was not interested in my opinion since I was not a chamber member, and eventually blocked my emails to him despite the fact that the UI uses taxpayer money to support the chamber. [Our private donations to the UI are carefully earmarked so that this kind of malfeasance does not occur.]
2. Both Hieronymus and McGann allowed without comment Kimmell to hire a procession of chamber employees, including Kimmell's wife, whose only qualification seemed to be membership in the Christ Church Cult. The same occurred with much chamber contracting practices.
By law UI is an equal opportunity institution, yet here we have two high ranking UI staff not only countenancing very discriminatory hiring practices, but using taxpayer provided monies via the UI dues to the chamber to do so -- again with no public apology.
Such sanctioned actions by UI high ranking staff not only undercut efforts to promote a more diverse student body, staff, and faculty but also make athletic recruitment (like the past "lynching" incident) more difficult.
Perhaps this hate convention, insultingly misnomered as the "Trinity Festival" slipped by President White because of his newness to the area and his unfortunate health problems.
He now still has time to review this matter and decide whether this use of UI facilities meets Board of Education Policies (as Saundra has referenced below).
Recently a ranking UI staffer was fired for providing a church with UI resources. If the same is found to have occurred with Hieronymus and McGann, than fairness and consistency dictates the same fate. In the meantime, both Hieronymus and McGann should be immediately replaced as the UI representatives to the chamber with persons more racially and diversity sensitive (and more fiscally knowledgeable and more receptive to listening to community opinion).
Wayne A. Fox
1009 Karen Lane
PO Box 9421
Moscow, ID 83843
(208) 882-7975
waf at moscow.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>
To: "'Carl Westberg'" <carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 3:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] What in the world?
> Hi Carl,
>
> In part, you wrote:
> "I'll also lay in any supplies I might need from downtown . . . "
>
> Well, Carl, I dunno know . . . that might not be necessary at all!
>
> I'd like to thank those who've brought up the Trinity Festival discussion
> Of course, I have lots of comments about it <g>, but I'll confine myself to
> just one aspect right now, and if possible, I'd be interested in the
> business community's take.
>
> I am rather puzzled by the locale for the Trinity Festival. Does anyone
> know why it's being held at the UI? Yes, I think we all know the UI is in
> dire financial straights, but have they no shame? Will they stop at nothing
> in their quest for the almighty dollar? Do they just flatly not care a bit
> about the harm that will come to the UI community from being painted by this
> odious brush? Seems to me like someone at the UI dropped the ball in a big
> way by not educating Tim White about this history of the UI and
> recruitment/diversity/human rights issues in the not distant past due to our
> perceived proximity to Richard Butler. I guess there's no institutional
> memory of the time when the UI -- and Moscow -- made the national news due
> to a "lynching" that was really a suicide, and all the institutional
> resources that were poured into dispelling that image. All of that hard
> work -- poof -- gone by selling out to the likes of the Trinity Festival &
> their warped ideas.
>
> Maybe I'm naive, but it seems to me the UI is directly competing with the
> private sector in renting out the Kibbie Dome and providing lodging and meal
> services. If this so-called festival were to benefit students or was a
> function/mission of the University, I could understand the campus location.
> But, the fact of the matter is that this festival has nothing whatsoever to
> do with the UI, its mission, or goals. Indeed, *making money* off hate
> speech seems to be the antithesis of the UI's mission and is certainly a
> HUGE slap in the fact to the taxpayers.
>
> In any case, does the fact that the UI is providing the facility, the
> lodging, and the meals for this non-student event harm local businesses
> which would benefit if the festival weren't on campus?
>
> And, how does the UI's decision square with the following?
> "Consistent with education's primary responsibilities of teaching, research,
> and public service, the institutions, under the governance of the State
> Board of Education and Board of Regents of the University of Idaho (Board),
> have and will continue to provide facilities and services for educational
> purposes. Such services and facilities, when provided, should be related to
> the mission of the institution and not directly competitive with services
> and facilities reasonably available from the private sector. The
> institutions' provision of services and facilities should be educationally
> related."
> http://www.idahoboardofed.org/policies/i/j.asp
>
>
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
> Edmund Burke
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Carl Westberg
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 March 2005 12:17 PM
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] What in the world?
>
> While I completely agree with you regarding Mr. Wilson's and friends
> competence as historians, and the lack of credible scholarship involved, I
> can't agree with an attempt to somehow keep it out of Moscow. The right to
> assemble is too crucial. There are events that occur in our town that I
> support, that those on the right scoff at and ridicule. The recent
> anti-inauguration rally at Friendship Square is an example. Were potshots
> taken at the rally and its participants? Yes. Was any attempt made to
> prevent it? No. I hate to trot out a shopworn phrase, but "slippery slope"
>
> comes to mind. Criticize the theme, make fair comment regarding the
> questionable acumen of those involved. I will. I'll also lay in any
> supplies I might need from downtown, avoid the area, and, in a few days,
> it'll be over.
>
>
>
>
>
> Carl Westberg
> Jr.
>
>>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: [Vision2020] What in the world?
>>Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:50:50 -0800
>>
>>What in the world is the web site for Trinity Festival all about? I
>>can't tell if they wrote the bio's for the speakers or someone who
>>hates them did...anyone?
>>
>>If they wrote them, it just proves how much irreverence these people
>>have/are all about. How can anyone take people seriously that write
>>such nonsence about themselves? (Now, I'm not saying Dougie is sane or
>>anything, but if he wrote his bio, he seems to be admitting it!)
>>
>>After reading the "Topics" page, I find it most interesting that the
>>church seems to be saying that the rest of historians this country has
>>ever had over the centuries are nothing but stupid, blind, doddering
>>old fools who can't seem to get history right - but never fear,
>>Dougie's here! HE has the inside and insight to set ALL of history
> correct.
>>
>>Really, it is so sad that people buy into this...I, for one, feel
>>ashamed that we did...but proud that we saw the true light and got out
>>before we were totally sucked in to the point of no return.
>>
>>There has GOT to be a way to move this junk out of Moscow! I would
>>hate to have someone from the outside look at this festival as a true
>>barometer of what Moscow is like.
>>
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