[Vision2020] Body jewelry

Pat Kraut pkraut at moscow.com
Sat Mar 5 21:46:07 PST 2005


What I know is that those who hire make tough decisions which can come down
to appearance. I was working in an office at WSU when Paul Kimmel was so
attacked by Loreca Stauber for suggesting that a young lady in the court
house not wear such shorts skirts. My boss...who was in the HRS office at
WSU was appalled that Ms. Stauber was so out of touch with the hiring
process that she would attack Paul for trying to help someone. Shortly after
her tirade a book was published stating that a woman who dressed with a more
professional look...suits, fully covered etc...advanced higher more quickly
than women who wore short skirts and revealing blouses. It is one of my
objections to those women on those attorney TV shows that reveal everything
as well as those new forensic shows. Young women who watch and think that it
is OK to dress in that fashion make a big mistake. Right? Wrong? I don't
like that women dress that way and men are always fully dressed on these
shows. It sells but it is wrong.
PK
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Debbie Gray" <dgray at uidaho.edu>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Body jewelry


Having participated in a few 'hiring committees' over the past few
years, I've seen how incredibly hard it can be to narrow down a pool
of 50 qualified people and finally select the one that best fits.
Perhaps when hiring, some people may use personal appearance as
something to narrow the pool. I am not saying it's right or wrong,
just maybe that is something consciously or subconsciously at work.

For eg. a business owner needs to hire someone to work with the
public (and the public ranging from 89 year old church grandma's to
14 year old skateboarders) and 20 qualified people apply. Weighing
ALL the clients ideas the owner might go with the least potentially
unsettling employee and weed out the 4 people with unusual body
piercings, 2 people with mohawks, 2 people with unwieldy facial hair
and 2 people with offensive perfume/cologine/body odors. This still
leaves 10 qualified people that the owner still has to interview,
etc.

Personal appearance does count, many places have strict dress codes
and that's just the way it is. I know several people that work in a
variety of settings that can't wear any personal jewelry, have to
wear black pants or have their hair cut a certain length, must wear
skirts, no high heels or sneakers or whatever...  Personally, I don't
see that as discrimination. It's rigid and controlling but
discriminatory? I don't think so.

Does this make sense or am I blathering.... too early in the morning.

Debbie...

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