[Vision2020] Steve Wilkins' unorthodox writing style

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christian Burns" <christian.burns at gmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Steve Wilkins' unorthodox writing style


>I was wondering if there are any here that have actually heard very
> much of what Steve Wilkins teaches?
>
> I was reading Nick's letter here and just thinking. Are there many
> people on this forum that would consider themselves libertarian?
>
> I am sure there are some that might think I am racist just because I
> have heard Steve Wilkins and thought that he made sense.
>
> In high school I had the MLK Jr "I have a dream" poster in my room. I
> read and enjoyed the Autobiography of Malcolm X, I have also recently
> read "Life and Times of Frederick Douglass: His Early Life as a Slave,
> His Escape from Bondage, and His Complete History to the Present Time"
>
> And I am looking forward to reading Doug Wilson's "Black and Tan" when
> it comes out. I want to learn and understand history.
>
> Has anyone else read Life and Times of Frederick Douglass? It was not
> easy. I just had not read any books from that era. I was amazed at how
> much the English language has devolved. God has been convicting me
> lately on failing to see others as ourselves. On the inside we are all
> human. In the eyes of God there is no color. And the work that Christ
> has done transcends culture. The Kingdom of God is to bring godly
> culture. Please don't shout "Theocracy" to me. I am not saying that.
>
>
>
> (1) An arrogant proclamation of those
> who are saved and those who damned;
>
> I am not the one who says who is saved and who is damned,
>
> (2) a gleeful wish for the destruction
> of infidels on either side;
>
> No, not me. I think that we should only defend ourselves.
>
> (3) an ethnic chauvinism of the type we see in
> the League of the South; and
>
> not me again and yet I enjoyed Gods and Generals.
>
> (4) a serious affirmation that the laws of God
> should be the laws of the land.
>
> The funny thing is that you seem to have no clue that the Laws of God
> are the foundation for the laws of this nation. Common law?
>
> Thanks for letting me rant,
>
> Christian Burns
>
>
>
> On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:17:58 -0800, Nick Gier <ngier at uidaho.edu> wrote:
>>  Visionaries:
>>
>>  I've sent the following letter to the Daily News and the Lewiston 
>> Tribune.
>> Thanks to Tom for putting the texts on his website so quickly and
>> efficiently.
>>
>>  To the Editor:
>>
>>  Last August Douglas Wilson, pastor of Moscow's Christ Church, reported 
>> that
>> he removed his booklet "Southern Slavery As It Was" from circulation in
>> January because of "some real problems with the footnotes" (Daily News
>> 8/6/03).  Wilson said that he had "revised it and it is now awaiting
>> republication."  A year later the title is still listed as out of print 
>> at
>> Wilson's Canon Press website, so I'm wondering what the delay is.
>>
>>  Is it because the principal of Carey Christian School in Carey, North
>> Carolina was forced to remove the slavery booklet from his students' 
>> hands
>> in December, 2004?  How many other copies of this embarrassing attempt at
>> historical revisionism out there in conservative Christian schools and
>> neo-Confederate bookstores across the nation?
>>
>>  Or is it because Wilson realized that there were more than just citation
>> problems with this outrageous little essay?  Wilson claims that the files
>> that he received from his co-author Steve Wilkins were somehow messed up.
>> But it is inconceivable to me that, for example, a subheading "The Myth 
>> of
>> Slave Breeding" and an entire paragraph taken from Fogel and Engerman's 
>> Time
>> on the Cross could have been a simple transmission error. Twenty percent 
>> of
>> the essay comes from this source.  See
>> www.tomandrodna.com/notonthepalouse/Plagiarism.htm for facing pages.
>>
>>  I now have more evidence about the deceptive ways in which Wilson and
>> Wilkins do their "scholarly" research.  On page 144 of his book on Robert 
>> E.
>> Lee Call to Duty,Wilkins copies 220 words from C. B. Bracken's book 
>> Lee:The
>> Last Years before citing a short indented passage from this book. 
>> Without
>> doing any research one is left with the impression that the preceding 
>> words
>> are Wilkins' own when in fact they are most definitely not his.
>>
>>  Using the same writing techniques, Wilkins has also copied passages from 
>> D.
>> S. Freeman's  Robert E. Lee: A Biography for his own book on Lee.  I have
>> written to both publishers to inform them of these egregious infractions.
>> Canon Press also sells another Wilkins title, and one wonders how many of
>> those words are really Wilkins' own.
>>
>>  The facing pages from the three texts can be viewed at
>> www.tomandrodna.com/notonthepalouse/SWP.htm
>>
>>  Nick Gier, Moscow
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