[Vision2020] An Open Letter [Continuing the Thread]

[keely emerinemix]

It's simple, Phil, as far as "using government" and other censorious means 
to "force them out."

No one I know wants to do that, not my many close friends in MCA nor my 
friends who aren't part of MCA.   Zoning disputes are common and mundane; 
they also tend to be affirmed or denied when appropriate, and I trust that 
will happen here.  I hope you remember that it isn't the "secular liberals" 
who many think comprise MCA who brought the initial NSA challenge -- it was 
three devoutly Trinitarian former Kirkers, not one of them likely to flock 
to the liberal end of the political spectrum anytime soon.

As a student of Scripture, I don't intend for honest, even vehement, 
doctrinal or ethical disagreement to "force them out."  I spend a lot of 
money on coffee, scones, etc., but my choice to not go to Bucer's or Zume's 
isn't designed to "force them out."  I don't have that kind of power and 
wouldn't use it if I did.  Individual Kirkers aren't hated, oppressed, 
discriminated against or subject to violence, and if they feel isolated or 
persecuted, I would suggest -- and have -- that it is because of their 
allegiance to Doug Wilson, not to Jesus Christ.  And that is a purely 
volitional thing, sort of like the choice to behave like a bigoted bully or 
not, in Doug's case, or to continue to buddy up to one, in theirs.

keely

From: "Phil Nisbet" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An Open Letter [Continuing the Thread]
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:46:14 -0700

keely

I do not think that you are on the same wave length as Wayne and several 
others.  The reality is that some in the anti-CC camp are only too willing 
to take governmental action against them.  That is where the slippery slope 
leading to what Niemoeller described leads.

If all you intend is to correct the errors from you peoples religious faith 
with another sect of your religion, you do not need to try to force their 
schools out, you do not need to try to have them charged with violations of 
zoning codes, or try to push them out of holding meetings or any of the 
rest.

The Moscow Civic Association is not some powerless little band of Brothers.  
I know that for a fact.  They throw a meeting and the politicians come 
running.  They complain that the CCers are planning on holding some 
conference at U of I, yet in the same breathe, crow that they have rented 
the Kenworthy to air their own films condemning the CCers, to benefit their 
radio show that touts their political views.

And keely, I do not agree with the ideas that the CCers have and think it 
pretty easy to show them that their ideas are not correct.  But I will be 
damned if I will see the government brought in as a vehicle to supress 
anybody's ideas or religion.  That is the path that leads to National 
Socialism and not to your suggested final solution.

Phil Nisbet

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