[Vision2020] An Open Letter

Dale Courtney dmcourtn at moscow.com
Fri Jun 10 19:40:10 PDT 2005


Hearsay. Nothing first hand there.  Already been adjudicated. 
 
best,
Dale

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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Art Deco
Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 18:58
To: Vision 2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An Open Letter


Dale,
 
http://dougsplotch.com/

Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
deco at moscow.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Dale  <mailto:dmcourtn at moscow.com> Courtney 
To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 6:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] An Open Letter

Rose, 
 
Deut. 17:6 will work. But the New Testament actually has that requirement as
well (Mt 18:16; 2Cor 13:1; 1Ti 5:19; and Heb 10:28) -- especially the 1Ti
5:19 passage. 
 
The requirement for having first-hand witnesses when a charge is brought is
an assumption of innocence until proven guilty. 
 
The fact that an invertebrate would bring such charges demonstrates not only
that he has no testicular fortitude, but also that he is operating in a
Venom2020 modus operandi as opposed to a biblical one. 
 
No one at CC will hear a charge brought by someone anonymously. Not only is
it not biblical, but we've seen exactly where that kind of thing leads -- no
where. 
 
Bring out your charges if you will  -- first hand accounts with first-hand
witnesses and not men hiding behind Intolerista skirts. No hear-say
evidence. Rule of law. 
 
Best,
Dale
 
PS -- oh, and the fact that it resonated with you and not with me (or any
other CC member) should tell you a lot of things. But then again, you also
have no first-hand knowledge of anything, just hear-say. 

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From: DonaldH675 at aol.com [mailto:DonaldH675 at aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 17:31
To: dmcourtn at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An Open Letter



Visionaries and Dale,
 
Actually, Dale, I am aware of the scriptural requirement for witnesses when
an accusation is made.  Perhaps you are referring to Deut. 17:6
 
"On the evidence of two witnesses or of three witnesses he that is to die
shall be put to death; a person shall not be put to death one the evidence
of one witness."
 
Of course, the author of the open letter was not asking for the death
penalty, but rather, repentance - which I believe you would understand is
the gift of eternal life.
 
At any rate, I think, that you, as well as your elders, pastor, and
congregation members, are far more aware than those of us outside Christ
Church that there are a super-sufficiency of witnesses to the sins discussed
in the letter.
 
As you know, I always sign my letters (typos, skipped words, and all).  I am
in a position to do so because I do not have to worry about employment, how
my children might be treated in school, or being shunned by other church
members.  As I understood it, anonymity was chosen so that the messenger was
not the focus -  the message was.  Clearly you and Doug don't share my
understanding.
 
I am sorry that the letter did not resonate with you in the way that it did
for me.  
 
Rose 



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